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  Remembering that we are dust.......

  by Thinking in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  today i was studing for tonights book study lesson.

  i got hung up on this paragraph.

  i don't know why but something about the wording just does not sound right.

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  IP_SEC

  Hey Thinking,

  You are correct. The Societies interpretation here is illogical.

  Adam dust=perfect;

  Us dust=weak and fraile.

  See, they dont use logic, they take a scripture here and there to create doctrine that is inconsistant with the context of the verse and the rest of the bible.

  Some of the other posters suggest the bible is a fairy tale, I dunno, right now I'm at a crossroads and havent made a choice on that yet. It may be. What I am sure of is that our religion is based on lies and poor scholarship.
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  Links between Jesus and other ancient Man-Gods

  by doogie in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  recently, at the prompting of another poster, i began to look into the similarities between jesus and other man-gods of ancient cultures.

  i was shocked!

  not so much by the minute details shared between the gospels and the stories of krishna, osiris, zoroaster, mithras, dionysus and others, but mainly because i had never heard of this before.. things like: being born of a virgin, espousing the redeeming power of baptism, turning water into wine at a wedding, having an entourage of 12 close followers, those 12 sharing a final meal with the god, instructing his followers to eat of his body and blood to benefit from his sacrifice (the blood usually symbolized by juice or wine), sacrificing his life by crucifixion on behalf of mankind, being dead for 3 days and then resurrected, he will return at some point to cleanse the world, and much more.. now, i know this is probably nothing new to most of you, but i was amazed.

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  IP_SEC

  Hey doogie,

  The only attempt I've seen to apologize this has been basically like this: "The devil is not stupid, he at least for some time had access to the court of heaven. He is also very intellegent. Even without intimate knowlegde of God's plan for salvation, he could deduce that the Messiah would have to be born of a virgin, he would have to be sacrifieced, and his blood would be precious. Also he would have to be rezed to life and would come back to judge."

  So the devil could have started these traditions to make the Christ look like the counter-mythris.

  This reasoning does not account for all the similarities.
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  hey yall im back!!!!!!!!! New brother

  by defd in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  man!

  i cannot believe all the attention i got yesterday.. i am a forum celebrity now.

  i do sign audigraphs.

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  defd .. you have a personal message. Top left corner in " inbox".

  No doubt is will claim that apostates are sinners and like living in sin, and are disgruntled, and thats why we arent in the organization anymore. Or, "he let me get a hold of sword of jah and we will take this board ova"

  Oh sorry, thats not what the PM said? Dang. My bad.
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  What frightens you?

  by ozziepost in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  got asked that question some time ago and have been thinking about it ever since.

  any answers?

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  IP_SEC

  Well, I use to be a buff motha, now I look down and am starting to get man teats. That frightens me. What frightens me more is a lack of desire to do much about it.

  But hey, whada you expect for a 91 year old man.
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  I have other sheep

  by IP_SEC in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  i have other sheep.

  john 10:16 is one of those overused scriptures that seem to prove the dual destiny doctrine.

  (john 10:16) 16 ?and i have other sheep, which are not of this fold; those also i must bring, and they will listen to my voice, and they will become one flock, one shepherd.

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  Few witnesses ever get to hear a different interpretation of the same passages.

  The re interpretation of John 10:16 has had such an impact on me I'm thinking about making it the subject of my exit talk.

  It's so clear, so logical, so irrefutable.

  20 mins explaining John 10:16

  10 mins explaining the great crowd of rev 7 and 19

  5 mins contextualy showing the FDS isnt revealed until "the day or the hour which no body knows"

  10 mins on What this means to you?

  Do you think this is too much info to hit a group with at one time?
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  Allosaurus & Eve ...

  by Taylor S. in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i was always fascinated with dinosaurs as a kid.

  i remembering asking my mother how come the bible doesn't mention the dinosaurs ... i mean, if he created everything, he must've created the dinosaurs.

  why no mention?

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  AA hahha that reminds me of an experience working with an older sis in service. It was back in 1990 we had a series of articles in the awake on Dinos.

  So we go to the door and this syster says in her presentation, "This issure of Awake! magizine dispells the silly notion that dinosaurs ever existed"

  Crap! lol I about wanted to die right there, the householder took them I think to get a laugh. When we got back to the car I asked her how she enjoyed the article on the dinos. She said "oh I didnt even read those since I know they never existed"

  I never told her the article was was about how dinos had existed and even tried to answer how they became extinct.

  Moral of the story? Alway read them mags before you make your presentation.

  2/8/90
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  The Watchtower's Achilles Heel

  by metatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  the watchtower's greatest strength is its ability to get 6 million people to put their lives 'on hold' and obey them without.

  question.

  by getting publishers to reject critical, analytical thinking, the directors and governing body continue their rule.

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  IP_SEC

  But what/when do they get to "retire" as WT Company traveling regional salesmen?

  In my circuit there are 4 retired COs. The older ones have a place at the local halls where they are assigned. One was built a house on the ass hall grounds and one was young enough when he left to go into biz for himself.

  I dont know the details but I can tell you they are assigned to the more affluent halls in the area. They bros there take care of their needs? Pension from the WTS? I dunno. There housing and car is paid for tho.
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  Where's Jesus?

  by IP_SEC in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where?s jesus?.

  i?m really concerned about the governing body.

  what if they break an arm whilst patting themselves on the back all the time?.

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  IP_SEC

  Aright man! go get your recharge!!! :)
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  Where's Jesus?

  by IP_SEC in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  where?s jesus?.

  i?m really concerned about the governing body.

  what if they break an arm whilst patting themselves on the back all the time?.

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  IP_SEC

  click here http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/default.ashx and chose (click) a main heading. friends, bible research, what ever. then click on New Topic kinda up at the top of the page

  Type a subject and then your message in the body :)

  IPSec
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  Are boxer briefs gay???

  by Elsewhere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was just watching a sit-com and someone made a reference to boxer briefs as being a sign a guy is gay.

  i like boxer briefs!

  they are the best of both worlds... a combination of boxers and briefs.

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  Jezus Chrass, from the bulge in the picture I'd say he has gone to Bbriefs. Oh wait thats just lemmiwinks.