You guys obviously havent seen the Simpsons episode where Homer keeps going back in time to the dinosaur days. That foot print only have 4 toes, homer has 4 toes. See, proof.
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Allosaurus & Eve ...
by Taylor S. ini was always fascinated with dinosaurs as a kid.
i remembering asking my mother how come the bible doesn't mention the dinosaurs ... i mean, if he created everything, he must've created the dinosaurs.
why no mention?
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Memorial Talk?
by Blueblades inwill it be the same old same old, or will there be something new added?
was judas there or not?
anyone know in advance if the outline has been changed?
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Ya its because they are emblematic or symbolic of the blood and body of christ. Why cant they use the word host like other religons? Its just dub speak, they gotta have their own clean, untainted by BtG words to use.
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Memorial Talk?
by Blueblades inwill it be the same old same old, or will there be something new added?
was judas there or not?
anyone know in advance if the outline has been changed?
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It is the same Memorial talk. Its theme is Observing the Lords Evening Meal
April 2000, S-31
Pattern for Lords evening meal was set by Jesus (3mins)
Why a ransome was needed (7mins)
Littleflock and other sheep benefit from the ransom (13mins)
What the Emblems Represent (2mins)
Celelbrating the memorial of christ's death today (12mins)
Benefits from being present at this memorial celebration (8mins)
An assignment for those of you who go: Does the speaker introduce each section originaly or pretty much verbetum by the outline.
Hhahhahahhaha
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Have you ever asked an elder...
by homme perdu inhow and when did the wtbs determined they were the faithful discreet slave?
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*** ip-2 chap. 6 p. 86 Jehovah?"A Righteous God and a Savior" ***
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Since 1919 when "the Israel of God" was released from spiritual captivity, Isaiah?s words have had a greater fulfillment than in Cyrus? day. Millions earth wide show a willingness to serve Jehovah
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ip-2 chap. 13 pp. 189-190 "Cry Out Joyfully in Unison"! ***17
In the modern-day fulfillment, the watchman class, "the faithful and discreet slave," raises its voice not just to the ones who are already in God?s visible organization but also to outsiders. (Matthew 24:45-47) A call went out to gather in the remaining ones of the anointed in 1919, and in 1922 the call was intensified at the Cedar Point, Ohio, convention with the appeal to "advertise, advertise, advertise, the King and his kingdom.***
ip-2 chap. 27 p. 400 Jehovah Blesses Pure Worship ***19
Spiritual Israel too was blessed with abundant nourishment after the restoration in 1919. Since then the flow of spiritual food dispensed through "the faithful and discreet slave" has been steady. (Matthew 24:45-47) This has indeed been a time of consolation and joy for the anointed remnant. But there have been further blessings.***
ip-1 chap. 18 p. 242 Lessons About Unfaithfulness ***the Creator by amassing riches and power for themselves. Hence, when the time of judgment "to start with the house of God" came in 1918, Jehovah removed Christendom. Another steward was identified?"the faithful steward, the discreet one"?and appointed over Jesus? earthly household.
*** jv chap. 15 p. 219 Development of the Organization Structure ***
Since the visible agency that would be used by Christ is the faithful and discreet slave (and the facts of modern-day history already considered show that this "slave" employs the Watch Tower Society as a legal instrument),
*** re chap. 12 p. 63 "Keep On Holding Fast What You Have" ***
18 In 1919 Jesus fulfilled his promise and recognized the small band of genuine anointed Christians as his "faithful and discreet slave."
*** re chap. 30 p. 209 "Babylon the Great Has Fallen!" ***
They were the modern "faithful and discreet slave," and the Master appointed them over all his belongings on earth. (Matthew 24:45-47) Their being used in this way proved that Jehovah had utterly rejected Christendom despite her claim to be his representative on earth.
*** re chap. 36 p. 260 The Great City Devastated ***
7 True, Babylon the Great was not destroyed in 1919?any more than the ancient city Babylon was destroyed in 539 B.C.E. when it fell to the armies of Cyrus the Persian. But from Jehovah?s viewpoint, that organization had fallen. She was judicially condemned, awaiting execution; therefore, false religion could no longer hold Jehovah?s people in captivity. (Compare Luke 9:59, 60.) These were released to serve as the Master?s faithful and discreet slave in providing spiritual food at the proper time. They had received a judgment of "Well done" and were commissioned to get busy again in Jehovah?s work.
Hey, well firstly as you can see from the last couple of quotes here they believe that since christendom and the nations havent been able to stop their work and because they make proclaimations against so called false religion, this is evidence of god's choosing them as the FDS. The major claim to this is that they were released from prison in 1918.
This is not proof though. They can say we are the FDS all day long and that dont make it so. They use to say 'since we are growing this is clear (loaded) evidence of being gods chosen' That isnt evidence of any thing, NATO is growing, the UN is growing, Mormonism is growing. That dont prove diddly.
Now the org is shrinking, its in negative growth, and thats proof that we are at the end of the last day. Crap man these guys got an answer for everything.
Secondly, if a person carefully reads the FDS parable, they will see that the slave isnt faithful and discreet until the master arrives and pronounces him such. Now read the context very carefully, when is the masters arrival? At the beginning of a Parosia 1914? 1918? NOPE, the context is the day or the hour that no one knows. It is the second coming, when Christ comes as judge. The big A. Therefore there is no way the FDS could have been identified since 1919. Christ hasnt named/proclaimed him/her/it. The WT plucks this verse right outa context and applies their own date to it. Yes they do! Right out of context! I humbly invite any apologist to debate this fact.
All you witnesses had better stop thinking of bible verses as being stand alone proofs. You must understand context. Who was speaking? Who was being spoken to? Why? Just because someguys up in brooklyn call themselves the FDS dont make it so.
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How many of you would pay $3.50 to meet me in person?
by IronGland in.
basically shake my hand meet and greet type thing.
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You think your so great cus you got a letter from the president for reaching 100 years old? Damn centarians, thinkin they so great, ridin the social security gravy train for 40 years now.
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My Pull-Ups Make Me Look Fat
by simplesally inyep!
she is 3 and a half years old and came up with that excuse as to why she cannot wear pull-ups with her nightgown.
i have no idea where she got that idea that she could ever ever look fat!!!!!
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Shoot man everything I wear, including my man-bra make me look fat. *looks down* Ack! I am fat!
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Has anything got details about the new OM book being released?
by researcher in.
has anything got details about the new om book being released at the meetings in about 3 weeks?
mar 20 i believe...... its real hush hush..... just curious.....................
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You know, this maybe something that the PO and Sec being told to keep secret. Other than the KM announcement, I aint seen a letter or anything on this. Our Sec and PO are usually real good about sharing the letters as soon as we get them. Or maybe they just havent sent anything yet.
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Has Anyone Got Any Proof That The Society Monitors Apostate Web Sites?
by slimboyfat ini am extremely skeptical about this, yet people on this forum seem to talk about it as though it were a fact.
so has anyone got any actual concrete proof?
here are the reasons why i don't think they do:.
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Would you accept what a Jehovah's Witness says on their say-so?
I don't mean to be disrespectful, I am just being realistic.
Apostates are just as bad a Jehovah's WItnesses.
They are the flip side of a coin.
Hey FatBoySlim!!! :) Your such a sweattie. Anyhow, my gut feeling is that they watch this and other boards. To not do so would be a foolish tactical error. (ever heard of a guy named Sun Tzu?) I realize that my/our gut feeling isnt proof, but you cant really be serious in saying that believing that org watches this board with out proof is as bad as believing that the WTS is the FDS with out proof?
That apostates are the flip side of the coin for going with their gut on whether the WTS watches this board? Pfft. You are disrespectful and unrealistic. Believing they watch this board doesnt hurt one person. Believing they are the FDS hurts everyone. 'tis no flip side to the coin bro. Your priorities on what is important are as squewed as your other Beth 'El brothers.
Hava good day :)!!!!!!!
IPSec
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Time For Slack
by Valis ini thought i would share this vital information with all of you.
praise bob!.
amen.. sincerely,.
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Fruck em if they cant take a joke
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Can anyone provide information about the voting change
by Triple A inno longer can they hide things such as their hypocritical un involvement, policy changes on voting because they lost a law suit in france or trying to keep their image clean by keeping pedophile issues hidden in local kingdom hall closets.
the above quote was made by seven006 in a well written thread (http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/78991/1.ashx).
can anyone inlightten me as to when the policy on voting occured, what the change was, and did it reach beyond the borders of france.
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*** wt chap. 18 pp. 163-164 "They Are No Part of the World" ***
so Jehovah?s Witnesses take no part in politics.
This is really at odds with the 1999 qfromr.
The 1999 qfromr is at odds with itsself. You can vote if your conscience allows but you cant work in the political process? You cant campaign? LOL. I guess voting only takes a few seconds, campaigning takes hours that could be spent in selling mags?
This issue is as legalized as the blood issue.
What Pharisees! You cannot wear shoes made with iron nails on the Sabbath because you are carrying extra weight=work. You can pull your bull out of a hole on the Sabbath but must leave another human in the hole. Governing Body=Pharisees, the caulk suckers.