B*****d! LOL
Gary
i love this quote and often find myself using it on the kids and my dog.
it is from cats and dogs and james earl jones doing the voice over.
"not for you young puppy, for you the war is over".
B*****d! LOL
Gary
i was having a look at the accounts of three local congs as i had heard a bit about the borg beginning to run low on cash as donations are falling.
locally, i was very surprised to see the cash flow problems of these congregations.
i had a look at other areas and saw that there were a minority making a small 'profit', a lot breaking even when it comes to contributions and a fair amount that are losing the plot financially.. congregation 1. accounts for 2005/06 income was short 19,000, yes, their expenditure was that much over their income.. congregation 2. accounts for 2005/06 income was short 11,000.. congregation3.
You might like to try your own local congregations account in the UK on this site:
This is fabulous, I didnt realise that individual congregations were individual charities!
Also too, could the deficit actually be because of payments to the WTBTS???
Gary
i love this quote and often find myself using it on the kids and my dog.
it is from cats and dogs and james earl jones doing the voice over.
"not for you young puppy, for you the war is over".
Guilt is like a bag of bricks, all you have to do is set them down, who are you carrying all those bricks for anyway? God?
Let me give you a little inside information about God. God likes to watch. He's a prankster. Think about it. He gives man instincts. He gives you this extraordinary gift, and then what does He do, I swear for His own amusement, his own private, cosmic gag reel, He sets the rules in opposition. It's the goof of all time. Look but don't touch. Touch, but don't taste. Taste, don't swallow. Ahaha. And while you're jumpin' from one foot to the next, what is he doing? He's laughin' His sick, fuckin' ass off! He's a tight-ass! He's a SADIST! He's an absentee landlord! Worship that? NEVER! -
John Milton - Devils Advocate
did you refrain from obtaining a degree or advanced studies when you had the chance because it wasn't the witness thing to do?
how has this affected your life?
comments, rants, and personal experiences please.
No, but I was very lucky. My JW parents actually supported me all the way to my Doctoral degree. I worked part-time and summers for my tuition, but I had no problems with that.
I was in a very liberal congregation and really didnt get any flack about being in University. My parents are still active JWs and actually do take
tremendous pride in my accomplishments in neuroscience research. My mom even keeps a scrapbook with all my journal publications, newspaper articles, etc.
Excellent, at least some families get it right! Gary
does christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses = watch tower bible & tract society?.
i have noticed more and more boe letters and congregational letters that are written by the "christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses".
letters from the society are supposed to come from the watch tower bible & tract society.
Its just another example of the so called charity behaving like a global conglomerate; they section off operating divisions into subsidiary companies in order to minimise risk and manage different cost centres - wish they would just be honest about it instead of flowering it up like its some great divine organisation. Its taking care of business, nothing more!
Gary
has the new watchtower arrangement been announced in the united kingdom yet?.
just wondering if my family are up with the 'new light' yet!.
The 'New Light' is that from 2008, the Watchtower, 1st of the month will be the 'placing' Watchtower for public consumption and the Watchtower for the 15th of the month will be the study watchtower, and NOT for public consumption, only for JWs in good standing.
Information control at its best I think!
Possibly an anti apostate tactic; they are no doubt embarrassed by how much of their crap has appeared on the internet; we should arrange for a rogue witness to infiltrate the congregations and obtain all priviledged information meant for those in good standing; then again I think theres a few out there anyway.
'JWs in good standing' means ''those suitably indoctrinated not to notice or if they do notice, ignore their flip flops, double speak, and circular reasonings'.
DB74 (Gary)
why are the jah jireh homes such a nice little earner at a time when retirement homes are struggling so badly in the uk?.
http://www.charity-commission.gov.uk/registeredcharities/showcharity.asp?remchar=&chyno=1062023.
any ideas?
There is never a problem with a business making a profit. However, this is now meant to be a charity and some people are doing rather well out of this charity and surprise surprise so are their families!!
Indeed!
Gary
did you refrain from obtaining a degree or advanced studies when you had the chance because it wasn't the witness thing to do?
how has this affected your life?
comments, rants, and personal experiences please.
The WTBTS has always been threatened by higher education for the simple reasons that it teaches 'critical thinking' and 'independent thought'; two things the watchtower society hate.
I was never encouraged to progress in school despite being what teachers described as highly intelligent (I beg to differ LOL); I always wanted to pursue a career in law but from the outset I was told that I should pursue a more humble career serving jehovah the WTBTS and get a more manual job or pursue a skill at best. In the old KH library there was a law reports book on the shelf, considerably out of date but I found it really interesting at 13 years of age, reading about all sorts of crime and how the law punished (or didnt in some cases). Admittedly the legal rationale behind the reports made no sense whatsoever but the headnotes which went into detail about the facts leading upto the case were really interesting and spurred my interest in the law.
I was caught reading it some weeks later and got a lecture from an elder about reading only spiritual things when at meetings or afterwards; he asked me what I wanted to do when I left school and I mentioned that the law was interesting but didnt know how to go about pursuing that as an education. Naturally I was counselled that I should pursue a more wholesome career either as a skilled manual worker or otherwise in a dead end job. I got the usual bollocks about the system coming to an end (that was 19 years ago!)
He placed the book on the shelf and we went our seperate ways; at the next meeting he wasnt present (probably giving some talk somewhere else) so I went back into the library again. The book had gone and so had any other non spiritual book in the KH library.
It took me until I was 20 to realise exactly what I did actually want from my career and I began my fade around that time; I now work in the legal profession and have some considerable responsibility within my firm; I have managed to get what I originally wanted but only by the skin of my teeth.
For this reason and many more I hate the WTBTS!
Gary
is there a time not to speak out?.
is there a time when it might be better not to say something and put doubts into someone's mind?.
we, as a family are 'faded' for well over five years now.
This is something that is a considerable conflict for me.
For those that know my situation, my only relative in the 'truth' is my mother who is very devout and totally entrenched within the cult.
I did however manage to get her to read some of Steven Hassans, Combatting Cult Mind Control when she last visited (last week) and although she didnt admit to relating it to her own religion, I know it has made her think- her facial expression was a picture when she referred to cults and how they attempt to control their members.
I think that to completely burst someones bubble, especially when they are so entrenched into the cult can be dangerous however allowing them think about things differently is totally acceptable especially when it is done covertly.
Will keep you posted.
Gary
has the new watchtower arrangement been announced in the united kingdom yet?.
just wondering if my family are up with the 'new light' yet!.
Can someone fill me in with the new light please?
What new watchtower 'arrangement'?
Gary