Explain matey using some 'for instances'
DB
i know some apostates become bitter and can see nothing good in their time spent as witnesses, but i am not talking about that kind of apostate.
i am talking about the other kind of apostate who tends to idealise certain aspects of their time in the witnesses.
what motivates such sentiments i wonder?
Explain matey using some 'for instances'
DB
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anybody in the michigan area get visited by james ohl?
i am curious as to how he rates as a co. .
Anybody in the Michigan area get visited by James Ohl? I am curious as to how he rates as a CO.
Did you honestly expect an objective answer to this question?
i thought it might be interesting to see where everyone is...home...work...someplace interesting?.
i'm in the world trade center in boston, sitting looking out at boston harbor.
i have to do a presentation today at the build boston show... a tradeshow for architects and builders.
I am at work slaving away without break or let up...
I lie!!!
I am at work but ive just got back from a leisurely lunch with two of our other partners and a client...heads a bit fuzzy with a great South African Red wine I devoured most of!!!
The day is good and the sun is shining.
hi there friends, i'm just jumping out of my skin with an email i just received from my older sister in reponse to this letter that i posted to my family just last week http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/87881/1.ashx.
this is the response i received just now;"hey babyi got your letter.
i cant write very much now but i just wanted to let you know i received it and i was very moved.
Frog I am so pleased for you...sometimes something happens which restores our faith in human nature...and this is one of those occasions.
Thanks for sharing that with us, its made my day...
DB
has anyone here ever gone to a witness school.
you know the school jw's set up to keep their kids separate from the world.
you would have the daily text every morning and of course a kingdom song had to be sung.. i'd love to hear your experiences.
Talk about "arrested development"!
But 20 years ago, who knows? We might have sent our kid to one if there was such a thing in this area.
Lordy, lordy............I can only imagine how messed up and non-functional my kid would be today if that would have happened.
You are so right there HD.
My g/f is a teacher...and she teaches in an inner city school with kids in various forms of depravation but the kids manage (for the most part) to make the grades and they are taught an extensive curriculum. In her opinion private schools which are not included in national statistics for educational achievements are extremely dangerous to children as they are not getting the right balance of academic teaching. I suspect that this is the same for JW schools...after all the one referenced above makes no mention of learning objectives and teaching quality...I would even hazard a guess to suggest that the teachers at that school are not as well qualified as those at other state and private schools...makes me sick to be honest.
i am hoping there are others of you that have the same feelings as my self and can help me to move on from them!.
currently i am in therapy due to different things that have happened in my life (not just to do with the witnesses!!
) and i thought it would be good to share my last session with you.. as a jw you are given your goal in life- your point.
Becks...Welcome to the forum, you do sound lost..however i hope you find here what you are looking for.
Look at life as a journey...a voyage of discovery...look for something new from every single day you are alive...throw yourself into good situations that you wouldnt come by before...consider volunteering...and when i say that i dont mean at the next convention...I mean within charitable organisations where people could benefit from your experience and hard work.
This temporarily will take you mind off the problems you are experiencing and the feelings you have to endure...try it...!
DB
i am going to try and explain this with out dragging this on so here goes, i am the youngest of four sibblings,i have a older brother which i never see and two older sisters.
i am close to my sister that is close in age to me but have a sister that is about ten years older.
when i was a teen my dad killed himself and the mother was a 24 hr mean drunk who after my dads death was committed to a nut ward.
Life is definately too short for hate....and whilst she hasnt behaved in a particularly moral manner it is right that even for your own purposes you must silence the voice in your head.
Theres an old saying...better to regret the things you have done as opposed to those you have'nt...go and make your peace...at least then you can rest in the knowledge that you did all you could.
Good luck...
DB
this has always troubled me:.
i was studying to be babtized although i was raised around the "truth" i still had to have an official study.
so i was taught that i had to go to jehovah in prayer stating my desire to be dedicated and babtized.
DB - thats terrible! You don't think that women die in childbirth in this day and age - not in the western world! How shocking - did the child survive?
(Thanks for the foaming pint - it was a bit stressy posting that, but I felt better afterwards. I can;t understand why my mother did not reach out to me and help me. I don't think she really knew me at all.)
The little daughter did survive, but her mum haemorrhaged shortly after birth and they couldnt revive her, the doctors apparently said that even if she had have had a blood transfusion there was no guarantee it wouldve been able to clot quick enough....I dont remember much about it except the atmosphere in all honesty.
Your welcome for the pint...yep i can imagine posting what you did was stressy hence why I thought you had balls sending it...
With regards to your mum it goes to show that not all parents are that maternal/paternal are they and they differ to various extents....lets hope we learn from THEIR mistakes.
DB
this has always troubled me:.
i was studying to be babtized although i was raised around the "truth" i still had to have an official study.
so i was taught that i had to go to jehovah in prayer stating my desire to be dedicated and babtized.
Crumpet (OMG)
Your previous post took some balls to put on here (pardon the expression)...respect to you, heres the drink you needed.
My experience of my baptism pales into insignificance in comparison but i remember the void well; it was almost like an anti climax from all the build up and back slapping and love bombing which goes on previous to it. Personally I found the love bombing and backslapping a pretence as some were congratulating me when they hadnt even spoken to me previously at the meetings.
Events took over that evening however when i realised that the wife of a friend had died giving birth to her daughter...I was gutted. My baptism day wasnt particularly a happy one.
in the last several years i have had jw friends do some crazy things to me which deeply disappointed me.
and i might add these are people who i considered to be friends.
one left her husband and just decided to cut off all contact with me.
In the last several years I have had JW friends do some crazy things to me which deeply disappointed me. And I might add these are people who I considered to be friends. One left her husband and just decided to cut off all contact with me. No reason. The other moved out of state and got remarried (never told me about it). I heard about this through the grapevine.
There are other lesser but just as disappointing behaviors on the part of certain other people. Now, this is not to say that non-JWs could not do the same thing. But I do believe the corny beliefs of the religion are in some way to blame for these instances
It has been discussed at some length as to some of the social inadequacies of JW's and the effect the religion has on them. It isnt just their beliefs that cause this, it is the overall culture, they profess to be friends with everyone of their 'brothers and sisters' but the majority do not understand the concepts of friendship and unconditional love and also what it means; if JWs do or come to understand the concepts then they tend to walk away from the religion sometime soon as the culture and belief system dictated to them does not support it.
You are right in the respect that anyone can behave attrociously and this behaviour is not restricted to JW's; but the reasons for such behaviour in JW's is more deep rooted in their culture and makes such treatment highly likely among their believers.
Choose your friends wisely...