LouBelle: If it isn't meant to be taken literally then how should it be taken? I've heard that it means that god made man with the emotions that he and the angels had but to me that is as ridiculous. How can we comparing the emotions that a spiritual being would have with a physical being. I also have a problem with the “it shouldn't be taken literally” argument. If the bible is gods word and a manual for how we should live our lives then it should be clear and uncomplicated, not hidden in metaphor.
mtbatoon
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Why do/don't you believe in God
by LouBelle innow for all the scientists out there this is not a question of proof or anything along those lines.
for my part i choose to believe in a god because i honestly believe there is one (though i did start doubting for a little while) i've always felt that there was more to our existance on earth - and that doesn't stem from me wanting to live forever or as a spirit, as i don't even know if that will happen.
i also believe in him because many many times when i could not carry on, on my own strength, i managed to pulled through.
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Why do/don't you believe in God
by LouBelle innow for all the scientists out there this is not a question of proof or anything along those lines.
for my part i choose to believe in a god because i honestly believe there is one (though i did start doubting for a little while) i've always felt that there was more to our existance on earth - and that doesn't stem from me wanting to live forever or as a spirit, as i don't even know if that will happen.
i also believe in him because many many times when i could not carry on, on my own strength, i managed to pulled through.
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mtbatoon
I assume that when your talking about god your referring to the Jewish/Christian god. Why not ask why people believe or disbelieve in Lord Brahma, Odin, Zeus or any of the thousand gods that man has created throughout history?
We once needed a focal point to answer all the nagging unanswerable questions of how did we get here, how should we live our lives and where do we go, questions that each religion tries to answer, some more successfully than others.
Science has answered many of these questions for us and possibly one day science will be considered in the same light as we now consider the universe being made out of someone's testicles.
The most damming verse in the bible is Genesis 1:26 “And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness”. Should this be taken literally, god and all the heavenly host have two eyes, two ears, two arms, legs, genitals, teeth? Why would a spiritual creature need these things. If the bible is to be believed there was no earth to walk on, they don't need food or have a need to reproduce. I think that it's the other way round, we create god in our image.
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What is YOUR middle name?
by Sunspot injust seeing the "quirkiest quirks" thread, i decided to ask this!
mine is "merriam" somewhere from the "merriam-webster" line so i've been told!.
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mtbatoon
James after an uncle. I wasn't allowed to give my kids their first names but was allowed to pick their middle ones and gave them Autumn and Storm. Lucky really that they were both girls as I had Merlin and Moonwind picked for boys.
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Constantine...Throw up !!!
by Legolas in.
i just watched the movie constantine
any thoughts???????
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mtbatoon
One of the best graphic novels ever. I can't see how the movie could compete. I'll see it one day but I'm not going to pay to be disappointed. It should have been kept in it's original media, why spoil the story just so the popcorn munching masses can be spoon fed dumbed downed pap?
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Who all here was personally helped by JWD
by Ticker ini was and i am ever thankful to this board and all the wonderful members on it that have contributed to my freedom.
thankyou all so much and i think i might be becoming a jwd addict.
i love this board it is so helpful.
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mtbatoon
OK not a major life change being out more years than I was in but I still had/have a few JW hangups lurking around, silly things for the most part but reading others experiences and thoughts has given me the slap round the face and pointed them out to me. Very helpful.
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Manure....
by upside/down inmanure .
in the 16th and 17th centuries, everything had to be transported by ship and it was also before the invention of commercial fertilizer, so large shipments of manure were common.
it was shipped dry, because in dry form it weighed a lot less than when wet, but once water (at sea) hit it, it not only became heavier, but the process of fermentation began again, of which a by product is methane gas.
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mtbatoon
Nope. Sorry to rain on your parade but it's an it's an internet myth. Shit in old English is scitte, from the Dutch schijten and German scheissen.
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Have a WONDERFUL weekend
by LouBelle into everyone on the board i hope you have a fantastic weekend.
i'm leaving work now and am looking forward to a delish, well deserved, double whiskey on the rocks!!!!.
doing a bit of shopping & decorating this weekend, plus taking a bit of time out for myself.
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mtbatoon
I will, there the cricket and F1 to keep me occupied and I will no doubt be pottering around the garden as it's such nice weather. What are you decorating?
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If you could change just one thing in the org.........
by ButtLight inwhat would it be?
for me i would get rid of the disfellowshipping!
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mtbatoon
I'd get rid of the field service. If they didn't go out and pray on the vulnerable then we could see how many flock to gods only earthly mouthpiece.
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I married a JW
by out of the box ini had stated before that i escaped a worldly abusive man and went into the 'truth'.
i got baptised after a year and then a few young men were approaching me as 'marriage' material.
when i think back i was pushed into baptism because it was time, i had been studying 'long enough' as the girl who studied with me said.. the ministerial servants came to the house 'with the perspective man' in tow.
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mtbatoon
It's been mentioned at the two JW weddings I have had the misfortune to attend that husband, wife and Jehovah form a triangle that is the most stable shape. Well it's not, its a wedge that divides and destroys. I'm sorry that you where mislead and happy that you've been able to take somthing positive away from your experiance.
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Another letter from WBTS re: UN Scandal
by Gadget inquite a while ago i mentioned to my parents about the un scandal but they didn't seem too interested, but when i called in the other day my mother mentioned it to me again.
they had a elder and his wife (family friends who i was previously very very close to) staying with them for the convention and discussed it with them.
the elders wife is a very strong personality and super-spiritual but when she heard of the scandal back in spring she had a huge problem with it.
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mtbatoon
It seems to me that the orgs defence is that they were using the UN not the other way round.
In the United Nations' DPI press release regarding the WTS' association with the UN http://www.watchtowerinformationservice.org/ngo2.htm ,it states
“The principle purpose of association of non-governmental organizations with the United Nations Department of Public Information is the redissemination of information in order to increase public understanding of the principles, activities and achievements of the United Nations and its Agencies.”
Well did they?
I'll have to leave it to others with better access to WTS publications to do the more research but looking on the official WT website and doing a search for UNICEF seems to me that the WTS were not only aware of this arrangement but carrying it out.