Thanks Leolaia. That'll be a big help
mtbatoon
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Could someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes.
by mtbatoon incould someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes i'd like to have as a standby should i need them.
the situation is that my mother recently sent me a copy of the watchtower as it had a family reference.
though i have summed up all my thoughts on the subject as a non committal grunt, if the subject reoccurs i would like to be better prepared.
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WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO BELIEVE NOW?
by bubble ini've been disfellowshipped for 4 years now (for loose conduct - lol) .
what i want to know is, what am i supposed to believe now?
i was brought up a jw but i know that so many of their teachings and doctrines are completely false.
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mtbatoon
Are you having trouble believing in God/Jesus or problems in trusting organised religion?
I don't think I could trust anyone who claimed to know the right way to worship. My progression from that is either God doesn't have a representative on earth, God doesn't exist or I just can't recognised what's before me.
My film of religious enlightenment was the “Life of Brian”
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mtbatoon
Why just the one God? Given my time again I'd go for polytheisms. Scriptures that read like an Australian soap and risky temple carvings.
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Could someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes.
by mtbatoon incould someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes i'd like to have as a standby should i need them.
the situation is that my mother recently sent me a copy of the watchtower as it had a family reference.
though i have summed up all my thoughts on the subject as a non committal grunt, if the subject reoccurs i would like to be better prepared.
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mtbatoon
Finally got the nugget I was after:
“Being limited by the laws of the worldly nation in which we live and also by the laws of God through Jesus Christ, we can take action against apostates only to a certain extent, that is, consistent with both sets of laws. The law of the land and God's law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship. However, God's law requires us to recognize their being disfellowshiped from his congregation, and this despite the fact that the law of the land in which we live requires us under some natural obligation to live with and have dealings with such apostates under the same roof.”
It was quite dated, Nov 15, 1952 Watchtower pp.703-704 Questions from Readers.
Good job that they took the trouble to remind people of the “don't kill the unbeliever” law. After all that's going to be the first thing someone's going to consider isn't it.
I'm thinking now there might have been another quote directly relating to grandchildren.
Now I'm not suggesting that it's a conspiracy or divine intervention but has anyone else noticed the amount of JW related sites where the search feature doesn't work? I'm just saying.
Rebel8: though the Youth Book has been firmly banished to my subconscious I'll have to have a trawl through when I have and a therapist on speed dial.
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mtbatoon
Will you stop posting cheep petrol prices, it's depressing. £0.95 per liter, do the maths yourself but it ain't good.
1 liters = 0.264172051 US gallons
1 British pound = 1.7629 U.S. dollars
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Could someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes.
by mtbatoon incould someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes i'd like to have as a standby should i need them.
the situation is that my mother recently sent me a copy of the watchtower as it had a family reference.
though i have summed up all my thoughts on the subject as a non committal grunt, if the subject reoccurs i would like to be better prepared.
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mtbatoon
Elsewhere: Thanks for the links, sad to hear that they played the big bully boy game and forced him down, maybe they'll extend the rule to their flock and not allow quotes of their publications in any way verbally, electronically or chemically.
Dr Jekyll: thanks for looking.
Honesty: That looks like the one, now how do I work it so a 10 and 14 year old would read that as “nana don't like you s'much as them god fearing cusins o' yours”?
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The Wizard of Oz
by onesong injust thought i'd share this because i'm amazed at how many people know and love this movie but have missed the significance of it's beautiful metaphor.. dorothy, scarecrow, tinman, lion represent everyone of us with or thoughts of being incomplete, imperfect and needing something outside of ourselves for fulfillment.
(heart, courage, brain, being home).
yellow brick road--path of life.
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mtbatoon
And I thought it was just a Populist satire commenting on the use of the gold standard.
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Could someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes.
by mtbatoon incould someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes i'd like to have as a standby should i need them.
the situation is that my mother recently sent me a copy of the watchtower as it had a family reference.
though i have summed up all my thoughts on the subject as a non committal grunt, if the subject reoccurs i would like to be better prepared.
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mtbatoon
Could someone help me with a couple of watchtower quotes I'd like to have as a standby should I need them.
The situation is that my mother recently sent me a copy of the watchtower as it had a family reference. Though I have summed up all my thoughts on the subject as a non committal grunt, if the subject reoccurs I would like to be better prepared. I'm sure I read them here but there are two that I'm looking for, one is regarding the children of exJW's and referring to them as “dross and scum”. The other is a bit older I think, it was about how the bible recommends honour killings and though I can't remember it verbatim it went along the lines of “thought we may feel this way, the law restricts us on acting”.
My line of argument is “please don't send any more publications as I wouldn't want my children reading anything that might make them think their nana sees them as dross and scum”.
If anyone has more quotes regarding how JW's should treat non believing grandchildren I would be very much obliged if you could pass them on.
I have tried looking for that excellent “quotes” website but have been unable to find it, I know there was some legal wrangling regarding it some time ago, I hope it's not been forced down.
Thanks in advance.
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Watch those Germans!!!!!
by Gill ini was having trouble sleeping the other night and switched the tv on to bbc 2. there was a programme on about the sw region of africa and a country called namibia.
early in the 20th century namibia was under the control of the german colonialists.
the germans were rather keen on getting more land for themselves as there were a couple of large tribes of black peoples living in namibia.
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mtbatoon
Yes those darn Germans abusing other races not as technically advanced as them. Wouldn't find that sort of behaviour from the English, can we say East India Company?
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Why isn't the bible clear and precise about everything?
by JH inwhy didn't god make the bible more clear?
there wouldn't be thousands of different religions around the world, and people killing one another in the name of god.
why didn't god make the bible clearer, and easy even for even the dummest person to understand?
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mtbatoon
Sorry, I was addressing that to Mtbatoon
No need, I've learnt my lesson and like I said I keeping stumm on the subject. If katiekitten wants it, she can have it.