Hey Hippi
For a girl,
Cassandra, Melinda, Maddison, Angel, Joanne, Michelle, Danita
For a boy
James, David, Peter, Bugsy
BugEye
we would like to ask you good folk ( the bad ones can play as well) for suggestions for baby names.
its getting close now and we need ideas.
we dont know the sex yet.
Hey Hippi
For a girl,
Cassandra, Melinda, Maddison, Angel, Joanne, Michelle, Danita
For a boy
James, David, Peter, Bugsy
BugEye
i have been having some pretty irrational thoughts lately.. its only been 3 months since we decided it is not the "truth".
but sometimes i think we (my family) would have been better off if we had stayed inactive witnesses.
the strain affects the whole family.. sometimes it feels like my whole world has fallen apart.
BEW, I think that I am aware of your situation somewhat.
It is so true, and it feels like there is a big hole inside. It has impacts in everywhere within our lives as well.
BugEye
dear fellow board members,.
my mother is still a member of the org, and as i see it, fully intends on remaining a member.
she does not agree with everything the wts says, (the elders don't know that) and she has told me that she would never disown me for them, nor have they asked her to.
Angel
That is an incredible letter!!
I believe that you have covered most bases and that you have left nothing unsaid.
Then again, I expect nothing less from you.
I hope that your letter not only reaches the correct people but that they act on it.
You are a wordmaster Joanne, and the next time I need a letter writing, I'm going to be calling on you.
Dave
JanH, as usual, I disagree with you.
Let it go man. Be the grown up, and if it is too hard, just pretend your all growded up.
Lets get on with life
BugEye
here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.
i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.
but i'll single out some peeps in particular.
Sunchild
One for you sweetie
BugEye
here's your chance to complement a poster whose posts make you think, make you mad, make you laugh, make you cry.
i usually find something that i dig in everybody's post around these parts.
but i'll single out some peeps in particular.
Well, what an amazing thread.
Like Gwen, I have 2 sets of people in mind, the posters and those I regularly meet in chat. Since I frequent that place often and enjoy the company of many in chat, I'll start there.
Also, many of you I have met in chat and moved on to IM'ing at other times and found myself in wonderful deep conversation. In no particular order:
BEW: Wonderful woman
Hippikon: My man, always in there and always ready to chat.
AngelofMuzic: Love the music and the mind
Think41self: Woooohoooo Babe
Somebody: You most certainly are
Seeker: Hmmmmm, always seeking to be petted
Logical: Love your music man
BEW: I'm kinda biased there so she gets mentioned twice
Wendy_mommy: especially when she has had a few
Safe4Kids: Like your sister, woooooohhoooooo babe
Prisca: We don't always agree, which is a good thing
Gopher: Dude
Freepeace: Just keeping an eye on T4, I know. Hey Buddy
Tina: (((((((((Huggs)))))))))) Hey girl
PLH: Harmony, you are the greatest sweetie, \~/
Rizzy: The great riz
LDH: Can I have you for my sex education teacher in my next life?
SlayerLayer: What can I say
CathyM38: Hey there
Nelly136: Sorry, I dont know how I forgot you
and did I mention BEW?
And for posters, since I spend most of my time in chat, I dont read so many anymore.
In the personal stories section:
Only one, the most courageous of them all, bar none.
Safe4Kids (((((((Huggs))))))))
Main:
DogPatch: I dont always agree, but I always look
JanH: Actually I skip most of yours
Think41self: Always uplifting my sweet therapist
Freepeace: Enlightening
PLH: Like Think41self, always a breath of fresh air
Amazing: Sometimes a little long but worth it
JanG: Helps too many people to miss
BEW: Intellegent, thoughtful and provocative posts (how was that babe)
Ozziepost: Givusarootluv
Ok, I missed out on a lot I know.
((((((Huggs)))))) and to all
BugEye
there is much discussion of the "dumbness" of those still in and the reason that they stay.. some of the reasons that i have seen are:.
they want everything in black and white.. they prefer to leave thinking to others.. they are scared to be shunned.. they are just ignorant souls who are on the "opium of the people".
they dont want others to think bad of them.. while i agree that there is no one single reason and that everyone is different, i feel that the real reason is a much deeper one.
Heya Boozy
Thanks for the response. The mind control techniques used by the WTS are indeed effective, although not as effective as a couple of other religious organisations.
The alpha level programming at longer meetings and conventions is also well done.
At large conventions, the attendants and specified walking paths with area's that are "out of bounds" serve as an excellent manipulation tool. Due to thirst, food deprivation and uncomfortable seating along with monotonous repetative messages, the average attendee is almost guaranteed to be in a fairly suggestable mental state.
The physical "guidance" offered by the brothers then serves to impress the idea that restrictions and a set path are natural and easily translates into a mental guidance.
This is why, even though a convention rarely if ever offers new information, atendees often return feeling "spritually refreshed". Their self restrictions and limitations that have slowly been failing over time have been reinforced by patterned behaviour modification.
All in all, someone desiring to learn mind control would do well to observe the WTS in action, although I think the Scientologists may be a more advanced place to look.
BugEye
there is much discussion of the "dumbness" of those still in and the reason that they stay.. some of the reasons that i have seen are:.
they want everything in black and white.. they prefer to leave thinking to others.. they are scared to be shunned.. they are just ignorant souls who are on the "opium of the people".
they dont want others to think bad of them.. while i agree that there is no one single reason and that everyone is different, i feel that the real reason is a much deeper one.
Pathofthorns
Thank you for your post, and thank you for being so critical of others, without this criticism and putting down of those who do not agree with your thinking, you would have no means of making yourself feel superior. Keep up the good work.
Oh and BTW, in my post, I said
Some of the reasons that I have seen are:NOT some of the reasons that they stay.
To clarify it a little further for you, in case it is not clear, this is a forum and people suggest ideas on why people remain in the WTS and some of the reasons that I have "SEEN" are :
Get it now???
There you go, it wasnt so hard now was it.
Please feel free to make yourself higher and higher and taller by pushing others down and making them appear not up to your immense standards.
BugEye
my name is joanne, and i'm 19. my earliest memory is of the kingdom hall.
it all started when my mother, who is now 62, was walking down the street and some witnesses stopped her while they were street witnessing.
my mom had a really tough life, and was looking for answers and a solution to her problems.
Hi Angel,
Thank you for telling me your story. I think that you have been and still are a brave and courageous young lady. I am glad you no longer do drugs, it helps in your growth.
As to your mother, it may be better for her to remain in due to her mental state and what it may do to her to have her belief system shattered.
I do not believe the bible, nor in a personal god, but I do believe that there is much more to know.
I am also thankful that there are people like you and others on this board that I can call my friend. My "borg extraction" was much more recent, and it really does help to speak with friends like you.
Thank you
Dave
there is much discussion of the "dumbness" of those still in and the reason that they stay.. some of the reasons that i have seen are:.
they want everything in black and white.. they prefer to leave thinking to others.. they are scared to be shunned.. they are just ignorant souls who are on the "opium of the people".
they dont want others to think bad of them.. while i agree that there is no one single reason and that everyone is different, i feel that the real reason is a much deeper one.
There is much discussion of the "dumbness" of those still in and the reason that they stay.
Some of the reasons that I have seen are:
They want everything in black and white.
They prefer to leave thinking to others.
They are scared to be shunned.
They are just ignorant souls who are on the "opium of the people"
They dont want others to think bad of them.
While I agree that there is no one single reason and that everyone is different, I feel that the real reason is a much deeper one.
Throughout all of history, mankind has pursued an understanding and knowledge of the future.
From scientific predictions to horoscopes and other various methods, it is almost universal that people seek to know what is coming.
The borg offers that. And it offers thorough training and critical "facts" to support their claims. And although their "facts" are full of holes, to many unaware of the subject material, no matter how "intellegent" they are, the "facts" speak for themselves.
Most of the literature from the WTS is presented in a "textbook" fashion, which impressively convinces people that the contained information must be correct.
So you end up with people who are seeking a future being given "factual" information and regular "pump ups" necessary to continue the falacious thinking which leads them to believe that they do indeed "know" their future.
Even when doubts start to protrude into their comfortable world, they are not then prepared to easily give up what "answers" humanities lifelong passion.
It does not make them stupid, ignorant nor gullible, it just means that they are human like the rest of us.
BugEye