If the "apostates" are Russellites, the answer is NONE.
(They very much prefer the "Old Light".)
If the "apostates" are Russellites, the answer is NONE.
(They very much prefer the "Old Light".)
a week or so ago, i quoted from m. james penton's "apocalypse delayed: the story of jehovah's witnesses.
" a number of you commented on it, so i thought i'd do it again.
here he comments on the worst features of the new world translation.
How about translating "epi tes ges" as "in the land" rather than "on the earth" at HEBREWS 11:13?
the watchtower magazine has used the word "soon" on many an occasion to point out to its readership how near armageddon really is.. a word that can mean anything, in effect, actually means nothing.
consequently, let's examine what "soon" actually means by definition and use.. there can only be three stages of time:.
wouldn't you agree with that?
Perhaps his "coming soon" is simply referring to his arrival among the "seven lampstands" to deal with the spiritual problems he found among those congregations. (cf. Rev. 2:16)
i stopped going out in service about a year ago.
just couldn't take it anymore.
after that, i still continued "studying" with my kids and "counting the time" for that.
Matthew 6:1
Yep. I've used that one, myself. And at the time it appeared to have worked.
when i was a kid, my parents (strong in the truth: father elder, mother regular pioneer) encouraged me to read.
in reality, they could hardly have held me back; i come from a long line of bookworms, including my father.
books were like water.
I think people like old "Jesus Eyes"(man, that's a good one) are the self-appointed guardians of "the truth". If Jah sees everything you do, then why do people like old "Jesus Eyes" feel they have to go around snooping? Why can't they just "wait on Jehovah" to correct you?Warlock
That's what the "Dear Sister" thought Jehovah was doing -- correcting our friend USING HER.
well gang, let me tell you a little bit about what is going on in my world.
for about the past 2 years i've gone through all the formations and as many of you have known from reading my posts i've pretty much have moved way beyond the watchtower in my mind many months ago.
coming to this board has helped with the process much, as well as getting my hands on alot of good reading material.
Drew,
Disclaimer: I don't know your wife; the following may be truly lousy advice.
Fish or cut bait. Right now you're just waffling. Do something dramatic and final.
Discuss with your wife an issue that the Watchtower CANNOT sucessfully address. Get her to agree that the issue is meaningful and deserves -- indeed, requires -- a reasonable answer. Tell her that you will get a straight answer from Bethel. Send a certified letter to Bethel and let them fail to give a reasonable answer, or order your expulsion.
Your wife will be unable to simply bow to the WTS' self-granted authority when she sees their "loving concern" up close and personal. What manner of Organisation persecutes people for asking a meaningful question?!?!
Good luck and God bless.
i just found this on e-watchman's forum.... http://e-jehovahs-witnesses.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=822&st=40.
judah shroeder was listed as deputy director of public affairs as of 2000 and was heavily involved in helping the organization defend itself .
against russia and france.
First he had the "earthly hope", but after his baptism, in July 24, 1932, in Vandercook Lake, [etc]
Hmmm.
If memory serves, the WTS claimed in print that they didn't begin to baptize "Other Sheep" until 1934...
apparently, a large percentage of xjw's who post on this site have embraced some other form of god/jesus belief to replace the wt doctrine.
most of them fall into the "i accept the lord jesus christ as my personal savior" class.
they are still extremely attached to the old "forgiveness of sin through the shed blood of jc" line.
For those who believe, no (further) PROOF is necessary.
For those who cannot believe, no proof is ever ENOUGH.
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i live in an apartment building, and i just heard the door bells ringing here and there, which automatically made me think that it could be the jw's.... when someone is at the door here, knocking or ringing, i'm always fearful that it will be them....
Actually, I am expecting them to call on me in a few days...
And when they do, I'll answer the door. I want to NOT answer their questions. Their look of helpless frustration is priceless.
i have just joined this site after having been visiting as a guest for a few months.
i am searching for answers so please be patient with me.
a friend of mine in the congregation has directed me to this site as he has been having doubts about the organization, though he said he never posts on it.
Zico,
I will second the comments of "lovelylil". While yet a Witness I professed to be anointed. I have since departed from the Organisation and still profess to be anointed. The Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society had nothing whatsoever to do with it.
Perhaps you would take a peek at Galatians 4:26-28 to see that the Scriptures prophesy that tens of millions of Christians are heaven-bound. Or look at Revelation 7:15 along with Rev. 11:19; 14:17; and 15:5 (especially in the "Kingdom Interlinear") to see where the Great Crowd will serve God.