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  Are you really free from the Watchtower?

  by yaddayadda in

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  the thread on how long it took you to get out of the organisation made me think.

  i honestly think anyone that spends more than half an hour per day on anti-jw sites like this is, psychologically, not out of the organisation at all, despite their best protests.

  the watchtower clearly still fascinates them to the point of an obsessive, compulsive need to frequently post on this website and others.

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  bennyk

  It is true that the Society has no hold whatsoever on me, personally.

  But I won't be entirely free of the Watch Tower Society as long as they are still holding hostages.

  I hope you can understand that.
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  Mars bars made with blood

  by 5thGeneration in

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  anyone remember back 15 years or so ago when some brothers used to think mars bars were made with lecithin derived from blood .. we had a sister call the company and interrogate them.

  funny.. .

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  bennyk

  I remember worrying that some glue and fertilizers also had blood in them. We were told we could call the manufacturers to find out for sure. Extreme beliefs forsure.

  Little Bo Peep

  WHY call the manufacturers? You weren't intending on EATING the glue and fertilizers, were you?

  (BTW similar thing with a "brother" who was reluctant to use plywood... on account of the bloody glue.)
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  Older WT quote reveals attitude toward disfellowshipped family members

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  2. beliefs

  hey, i discovered this older quote from reexamine.org.

  i could not believe how serious it was about what a family .

  member was not allowed to do with a disfellowshipped .

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  bennyk

  The law of the land and God’s law through Christ forbid us to kill apostates, even though they be members of our own flesh-and-blood family relationship.

  You can almost feel their dismay; after all, if you can't kill YOUR RELATIVES, who can you kill?
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  The answered prayer

  by Ade in

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  2. bible

  john 14:12 "most assuredly, i say to you, he who believes in me,the works that i do he will do also;and greater works than these he will do, because i go to my father.13"and whatever you ask in my name, that i will do, that the father may be glorified in the son 14:if you ask anything in my name, i will do it" .

  i understand that we ask for our prayers to be answered through jesus name as jesus is the amen.many will give a different answer to this question from the trinitarian/non trinitarian viewpoint.jesus says here that he will answer your prayers if you ask in his name.

  does this mean it is ok to request from jesus during the prayer.

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  bennyk

  Why did Stephen commit his spirit to Jesus at the momoent of his death instead of to the Father?

  See John 5:21,25-29.
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  Ray Franz CoC, was he in denial? Just asking.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  2. bible

  i was reading a little coc last night where ray f. disusses the witch hunt at bethel that resulted in all the oustings.

  as i read the doctrines that he questioned, (not judging him right or wrong), i noticed that he was questioning some of the fundamental beliefs of the wt.

  ie: gov.

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  bennyk

  Ray told me he continued attending meetings in Alabama in an attempt to gain some time to share the truth about the WTS and its teachings with a number of his friends (those outside his immediate circle). I believe him. I did the same thing myself (although not in Alabama).
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  Let's just get something straight about 1975.

  by WTFBBQPWNT in

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  nobody ever said that the end was coming in 1975.. all the hype about this date that has continued all the way down through today came from a talk in the early 70's by fred franz.

  in this talk, franz pointed out the significance of the 7 creative days and how they correspond with 1,000-year time intervals.. he then said, "could the end come in 1975?

  there's so much wrong with jehovah's witnesses from their rigid legalism to their faux love, but let's call a spade a spade about the 1975 thing..

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  bennyk

  If memory serves, in one of the the Oct. 1966 Awake! 's, it was clearly stated that the millenium would have to begin no later than 1975. So the big white bird is correct (sorta). The statements of the forementioned Awake! implied that Armageddon could begin earlier than 1975. Of course, the Society was proven a False Prophet by the non-events preceeding 1976.
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  Confess and you won't be DF'd!!! Puke alert!!!!

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well, in nearly forty years of being a dub, i've read some bs but some of it really takes the biscuit.. take for example the watchtower of november 15th 2006!.

  always accept jehovah's dicipline.

  para 3 .

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  bennyk

  If every last one of these individuals who have been DF'd were NOT truly repentant, why have we seen so many of them work for re-instatement IMMEDIATELY? Shouldn't this serve as proof to the "rank and file" that these Elders are not "Spirit-directed" and that these decisions are not coming from God?
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  Statistical effect of disassociating the inactive

  by AuldSoul in

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  2. friends

  it has been tossed around several times on the forum, and invariably someone pipes up that the wts will never do it because of the adverse effects on the numbers.

  there is a glaring flaw in that reasoning.. the inactive are never counted as publishers.

  the numbers that are reported are of active, reporting publishers.. if they disassociate every single person who is inactive and refuses to reactivate themselves, the numbers will not be negatively affected at all.

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  bennyk

  Recycled old post (16. June 2005):

  The congregations are filled with the weak and inactive. It may be that the GB fears that the level of apathy is reaching critical mass. JW culture is changing and it is becoming socially acceptable to ignore the shrill and strident calls for conformity and obedience. The Org may be willing to do a bit of pruning to preserve the hard-core elements from the erosive effects of the inactive and the faders. Following the debacle of 1975, the WTS lost many adherents, but these were soon replaced by new and significant growth. They may risk such a move (DA-ing faders) with a view to long-term potential for increase.

  On the other hand, many less-than-zealous Witnesses remain only to preserve relationships with family and friends, or because they have no support network outside the Organisation. The GB must know this. If the WTS "offs" too many, they will inadvertently create such a support network. Watch the dam burst and the reservoir empty...

  I also agree with the posters who suggest that such action on the part of the WTS will cause numerous and sundry faders to cease the silence and become active (and effective) opposers.
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  If U Don't Go To All The Meetings & Conventions You're Not Jehovah's Friend

  by minimus in

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  so said an elder's wife who is considered the most respected sister in the congregation.

  she said this at my mom's bookstudy where many elderly attend.

  when my mother told me what the elder's wife has said, i said, "well, it's better to know now where you stand with jehovah than later, i guess".

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  The Elders tried Hebrews 10:25 on me one of the last times we met. I said: "No -- the context also indicates that we 'consider one another to incite to love and fine works' (vs. 24[!]), and as the Meetings do nothing of the kind, I do not believe verse 25 is referring to the Meetings at the Kingdom Hall..."

  The look on their faces was priceless!
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  A little hypocrisy "Watchtower style"

  by rockhound in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  about 2 months ago my jw sister informed me that she had decided to disfellowship my wife and i. she used 1john 2:19 as a scriptural reference, and the sept.15,1981 watchtower article on disfellowshipping to support her charge.

  my reply to her was quite lengthly, but i thought some at this site might be able to benefit from this part of my response.. in your letter to( wife) and i, you applyed 1john 2:19 to us and gave as a reference the following watchtower article to show us why you had decided that "i will treat you as a disfellowshipped persons", because "by deliberately rejecting the faith and beliefs of jehovah's witness" we are evidently guilty as paragraph 14 below of "renouncing his standing as a christian".

  *** w81 9/15 p. 23 disfellowshiping?how to view it ***.

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  bennyk

  Dear Rockhound,

  Please tell her that 1 John 2:19 was written by an Anointed Christian to Anointed Christians about Anointed Christians who became part of the Antichrist (vs. 18). Unless she is willing to agree both that you are "anointed", and also charge you with being an "Antichrist", the Scripture cannot be justly applied to you...

  Remind her of the existence of such Scriptures as Matt. 5:11,12 and Luke 6:22,23.