Posts by seek2find

That's an interesting coment. Some here have lost faith. Some of us also have found real faith. I think the thing about this forum and the reason it's so popular is that all who seek support and fellowship here have lost faith in an organization who set itself up in the place of Jesus Christ and by doing so profaned his Holy name. So yes I guess I have lost faith, faith in promises that didn't materialize, prophecies that never came true (1975 and Generation of 1914) but that I was fully expected to beleive in. Yes Scottsman, I'm sorry I lost my faith in those things and the Organization they came from. But at least for me there is some good news, the Apostle Paul also lost faith in an organization he spoke about it in Phippians the 3rd chapter and summed it up in verse 8 "What is more, I consider everything a loss compared to the surpassing greatness of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord, for whose sake I have lost all things. I consider them rubbish, that I may gain Christ" (NWT highlighting mine) seek2find

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Miranda for the fader

by changeling in

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there 's been a lot said on this board lately about revealing our feelings and doubts to friends, family, and that "reasonable elder".

well, i just wanted to share something with you guys.. a while back, i had what i thought was an innocent conversation with someone very near and dear to me.

all was calm and rational, questions were asked in a spirit of wanting to understand.

seek2find

I've experianced the same thing many times. I've concluded that their is no way to say anything negative about the organization to those who are 100 percent on board. Everything and anything you say can and will be used against you and will be shot down by the one you are talking to. Loyalty to the organazation is prioty number 1. seek2find

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Really, What's So Wrong With The Jehovah's Witness Religion To You?

by minimus in

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is it that bad??

is it worse than fundamentalists of every other sort?

are jws worse than radical muslims?

seek2find

Some of the post on this thread and this board in general, dramaticaly illustrate why the JW religion is bad. The real root of the problem is this. They encourage people to build their faith in an organization, rather that to have a personal relationship with Jesus Christ. So as a result when faith in the organization collapses the person is so badly burned they don't trust anything or anyone. They sometimes lose faith in God and stop beleiving in him, when he wasn't the real problem, the organization was. I read a saying recently that describes many of Jehovah's Witnesses. It goes like this: "Some minds are like concrete. Completely mixed up and permantely set." Real danger exist within the JW beleif system because in a way their thourly mixed up way of thinking encourages suicide. How many times have we all heard a witness say the following after a non-witness relative dies. "Oh well at least now we will see him in the resurection" So the same thinking is extended to the individual witness that if he or she dies before amageddon they will be resurected. So when depression hits and life seems to be unbearable they get to thinking, "maybe God will forgive me if I kill myself and resurect me, but if I get killed in armageddon, I won't have any hope. Maybe I should try option 1" I myself prefer a third option. Re-Building on the proper foundation that of faith in God through Jesus Christ alone who said "I am the way the truth and the life" seek2find

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question. urgent.

by DeusMauzzim in

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the situation: a friend of mine was df'ed recently.

i live with my mom, who is still active.. my mom told me that this friend couldn't come around anymore now.. i said that i had already figured that out, because she would be dfed if she kept contact with him, so she could do nothing else but follow the rules of the borg.. she responded that this was not so, that this was her personal choice ('out of love') :s. just to be sure.. we all know this is crap, right?

examples, quotes, please!.

seek2find

I think it varies as to where you are and the attitude of the local elders. Although there is suppose to be unity, in the real world there are elders that are super strict, and others super liberal. Whether your Mom would be disfellowshipped depends on the local body and how strict they are. seek2find

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What was your 1st Deception as a JW?

by JH in

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was was the first thing that really decieved you, in your jw years?.

was it the way you were treated, or maybe a teaching that deceived you ?.

i think my 1st deception was when they said that the resurrected ones wouldn't be allowed to get married in the new system.. then i wondered why ???

seek2find

I 've been a JW all my life, so I don't know which one was first, but the biggest (for me) deception is 2 fold. That is the teaching that the faithfull men of old Abraham, Moses and David,ect will not be in heaven but will always be on Paradise earth. The other part of the same deception is that there was only 144,000 true Christians from Jesus day till 1935. Especially when Acts mentions that thousands were being added daily. seek2find

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A Gem from the new book "COME BE MY FOLLOWER"

by bennyk in

i've only skimmed the book, but this is a keeper:.

he [jesus] is certainly angry at all those religious organizations that falsely claim to represent him.

--p. 185, par.

seek2find

In My oppinion what's missing with the JWs in their following Christ, is they don't follow his example when dealing with the general public. When a disaster strikes true Christians lend a helping hand to all including beleivers and non-belivers. The witnesses didn't even establish a releif fund after Katrina they said just to give to the general fund. Do they think Jesus really aproves of being so selective in helping others? What about the story Jesus told about the good samaritian? Can you see a modern day witness treating a disfellowshipped person like the Samaritian treated the Jew? Jesus foretold our day well when he quoted Isaiah saying "this people honor me with their lips but their hearts are far removed from me" seek2find

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Jehovah's Witnesses turned Christian....Post Here

by R.F. in

i would like those of you former jws turned christian to post here.

specific denominations can be mentioned.

i'd just like to get an idea of how many of you there are.

seek2find

I consider myself a non-denominational Christian, though I still attend the KH mainly for the sake of family. I'm kinda open minded about the beleifs of others as long as they center on Christ. And do not encourage anyone to follow their group or leader, and they aren't judgemental of other Christians. I want to follow Christ alone as leader. If a person or group can assist me in doing so, that's great. Being a Christian is about being in a relationship not a religion. seek2find

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WAS RUSSELL TEACHING TRUTH?

by badboy in

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perhaps one should a jw this question.. then ask them ,how come his teachings have been altered if he was teaching truth?.

seek2find

You ask a great question! I've been telling this to my wife for quite a while now, that the real truth doesn't change. If we have the truth today it will always be true and never have to change. seek2find

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If Children grow up in the Truth but never get Baptized, why no shunning?

by NotaNess in

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i kind of understand the "never made the real commitment" part, but isn't learning the "truth" for 15 to 20 years, and going out into the "world" as opposed to committing,... the same as choosing to not accept jehover's (aka wts) ways and be with the brothers and sisters in union?.

why is the shunning treated different?

is it because, there's always hope by the parents, that they will come around?, etc.. .

seek2find

I guess maybe if we don't like the term double standard we could substitute the term "bait and switch". The non baptized just haven't taken the bait yet so the "switch" is held from them. seek2find