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  2009 Drama - Kudos to Bethel. Sorry.

  by Open mind in

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  my overall impression of this year's modern-day prodigal son drama was that it was one of the best i've ever seen.

  "best" if the goal is to try to convince young jws to stay in the org.. the amount of cheesiness was at an all-time low, imo.

  there were a few exceptions, but i got the impression that bethel is getting pretty good intel from the field and incorporating it into the program.

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  Is it posted online anywhere?
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  Picture of Jesus in the KH

  by startingover in

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  2. friends

  a jw friend told me that a newly remodeled kh in the area has a big picture of jesus with his hand extended in the entrance.

  since it's a picture that is from the publications many say it's ok. sounds really out of place to me.

  it tells me the jw's are going mainstream..

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  The local KH here has no artwork anywhere in the building. Only the sign with the year text. seek2find
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  Bethelite reverence

  by Waffles in

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  2. friends

  have any of you had the experience of a bethelite brother visiting your kh?.

  here's how it always seemed to go in my experience:.

  there is a general kh-wide excitement in the air that a real, live bethelite rockstar is at the hall; overheard are numerous convo's featuring words like "o, he's a bethelite".. visiting brother bethelite gives the closing prayer and is immediately mobbed by adoring fans.. all the single sisters are on high alert, you can smell the estrogen in the air.

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  Such events and Circut overseer parties (when their leaving the circut) are the only time some congregations have social gatherings. Oh and the ocasional meal after a funeral. The rest of the time your on your own. But don't dare get into any worldy association. Just stay home and have no social life. seek2find
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  Any behavior you regret due to JW teaching

  by happpyexjw in

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  does anyone wish they could make amends for mistakes made as a jw?

  i tried very hard to follow the teachings very closely, right down to shunning some of my relatives who were df'd.

  i also think i was very judgemental and hard on others..

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  I regret not only how I, but the organization responded to the needs of others in time of need. When hurricane Katrina hit the gulf, I remember how no special fund was established and how a letter was sent that said if one wanted to donate to the releif that they should make contributions in the regular way and NOT designate the funds to the specific disaster. They was concerned that to much would be designated beyond the need of the witnesses affected, and that the money could be used in other places to build halls and so forth.

  We never did anything in the way of Charity for the community in general, only where fellow witnesses were involved. It didn't seem to follow Christ example. seek2find
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  The "Marital Due"

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wasn't sure whether to put this in scandals or beliefs and practices.

  it could easily go in either.. this topic has been discussed plenty of times.

  it seems to me that this is a much bigger problem in the jws than most people realize.

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  Hi again, Maybe the problem is, (or was) that the organization put to much emphasis on sex and all the do's and don'ts and made it something mechanical, rather that a natural and pleasurable act. It seems that they were obsessed with it. I've heard that when groups are obsessive about it, it is an indication of some level of sexual disfunction on the part of the leadership. I believe that may be true. seek2find
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  The "Marital Due"

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wasn't sure whether to put this in scandals or beliefs and practices.

  it could easily go in either.. this topic has been discussed plenty of times.

  it seems to me that this is a much bigger problem in the jws than most people realize.

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  Lady Lee, Your comment on this subject make me think of a lot of couples I knew while I was a witness. A lot of them had been maried many years and many people thought that they had good mariages. Behind the sceens tho it was a mere facade. I remember hearing one older lady quoted as saying she "couldn't wait till the old Bastard died". I think the root of the problem was that the Organization encouraged this type of thinking. They tried to make rules that the Bible didn't contain that discouraged couples from experiminting with lovemaking techniches that could have enhanced the womans pleasure. The focus was always put on just the mans. I knew of several cases when a Husband would have an afair and it seemed that the wife got the blame because she wasn't "giving her due". When in reality the husband was just a skirt chaser looking for an excuse. seek2find
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  books you would recommend... anti-witness and otherwise???? SHARE!!!

  by New light for you in

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  2. friends

  hello gang,.

  so, i'm getting low on my apostate materials and was wondering if you could recommend anything beyond what we've done already...... -crisis of conscience.

  -in search of christian freedom.

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  For those who haven't given up on God and Christianity, I recomend "Mere Christianity" by C.S. Lewis and "All of Grace" by C.H. Spurgeon. seek2find
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  David H. Splane

  by VM44 in

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  david splane is a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.. he became a full time minister in september 1963. a graduate of the 42nd class of gilead, the jehovah's witness missionary school, he served as a missionary in senegal, africa, then for 19 years as a travelling overseer in canada.

  he and his wife, linda, have been at bethel (jehovah's witness headquarters) in the united states since 1990, where he has worked in the service and writing departments.

  since 1998, he had been a helper to the writing committee.

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  I guess I've missed something, what is there about him that prompted a special thread? seek2find
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  Could a single decision/mistake bring down watchtower

  by badboy in

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  with decisions by bankers etc bringing down financial systems, other situations decisions have had wie ranging consequences makes one wonder if a single decision could bring things down.

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  Their totaltalitarian way of yeilding authority may lead to their fall. Such has happened before in govermental regiems such as in Romania in 1989. Or even like the fall of Solomons rullership in Bible times. In any case I feel the clock is ticking. It's just a matter of time. seek2find
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  The Kool-Aid Edition

  by Alpaca in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i just found copies of the january 1, 2009 wt and the january awake that were left in public place.

  it was the first time i've looked at either rag in probably 10 years.. the writing is absolutely pathetic.. it got me to wondering.

  what does the kool-aid edition look like?

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  You can see how they look at Jw.org. and clicking on the study edditions. The public and study editions are completely different magazines. The study copy has 4 or 5 study articles and a few filler articles. The public one has more articles targeting regular people. The articles do seem to be getting worse as far as writing quality, but maybe it's just me and my "critical attitude" seek2find