Whiskeyjack

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  JW in Canada wins $30k for not wanting to place Christmas decorations

  by Dogpatch in

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  take steps to avoid human rights disasters

  in most discrimination cases that go to court, an employee's complaints were ignored: problem may be hidden

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  Pierre Trudeau's legacy lives on!

  The Canadian Supreme Court's role has indeed changed in the last couple of decades (up here, the judges are just appointed by the party in power at the time with no vetting in regards to their degree of conservatism/liberalism) and Parliamentarians are getting quite annoyed with their interpretations' (pretty "liberal" bunch on the bench right now) effect on existing legistlation.

  The Canadian Charter certainly lacks specificity and coupled with a truly multi-cultural reality (half of all Toronto residents weren't born in this country) has led to widespread attempts at social engineering by the federal and some provincial governments (particularly in Liberal dominated legislatures) to "steal a march" on further court decisions. This is probably the best legal system to be a "witness" in right now (even "better than Europe), even in Quebec.

  Do we know which court reviewed the case (this sort of thing usually goes to the tribunal system first)?

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  my mom stopped going to meetings today

  by dh in

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  i don't talk about my family very much on here, but today i feel i have to, because today after all the years of pushing, finally there is a result.. thanks to life & the universe and everyone on jwd, who by simply existing have helped in a way that i don't know how to write.. today is the day my mom stopped going to meetings.. i won't go into loads of detail at this point because it's very involved, but it's done.

  my dad is an elder and is still going, but my mom is out now.. thanks

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  Congrats! Maybe there's still hope for my folks!

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  I still think it might be the truth - what is wrong with me?

  by slimboyfat in

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  apostate literature - i have read the lot.

  you name it - c of c, gentile times reconsidered, thirty tears a watchtower slave, the orwellian world of jehovah's witness, apocalypse delayed, and the freeminds and watchtower observer sites, so on and so on.

  and i have been reading the posts on this site regularly pretty much since it started, and hourglass before it.

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  Hey Slim,

  Could you be a little more specific? Are you talking about chronology (and hence the FDS legitimacy?) or other doctrine (two flocks vs. one flock, etc...) or just the org.'s "fruits"?

  I'm now agnostic myself (but hopeful!) and it was the dysfunction that I observed as an adolescent that made my mind up. While we like to think all our decisions are based on rational logic, many are based on emotion. This is especially true when religion organized in a complicated social structure is involved (we're all herd animals, sociopaths notwithstanding).

  One danger I saw in my one of my siblings was the desire to "go back" to the "herd" but it was an emotional motivation, not the result of logical/thinking in regards to the "facts". Starting over from scratch (philisophical search for meaning in life, etc...) is not fun and one may be searching the rest of one's life.

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  need to vent - just got off phone with mom

  by jaredg in

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  man i hate the predicament that this religion has put me in.

  i love my mom so much and to hear her cry is the worst thing in the world.

  it's so frustrating when she thinks that things are so bad b/c i'm dfd.

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  Hang in there man.

  Same problem with my mum (she and my father are at retirement age). The best arguement she can come up with is "well, it has to be the truth-what else is there?". Over the years, she has adjusted her behaviour to at least "agree to disagree" and we just avoid religious topics when we converse. A partial relationship is better than none at all.

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  Then and now - sports

  by larc in

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  earlier, i wrote, "then and now" on military service and dating practices .

  onacruse and alanf encouraged me to do this.

  i am 64, so i really do know the religion of the 40's and 50's.

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  Anybody know the "official" and "unofficial" org. stances on this today? It was extremely discouraged in my day (early eighties).

  I had a younger sibling (early nineties) that did play high school rugby (my dad had decided it was better to keep him busy than hanging around with other kids in their local cong. We laugh because our father was so embittered by then with local elder cadre (the majority's "strange" lack of desire to discipline one of their own in regards to his sons' behaviour and the stink he was obliged to kick up right up to the DO level but that's another story) that once, he actually left a Sunday meeting ten minutes early to drive him a game (you'd have to know him to realize what unusual behaviour this was for him)!

  Sorry for the run on sentences.

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  Thinking back

  by purplesofa in

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  my bookstudy was at an elders house that lived a bit out of the city.

  a small road with only his house and another.

  the other house was the first you passed.....unsightly....trashed cars.......broken down bicycles............not trashy, but not like the bit of paradise at the elder house.. i remember the elder telling us how the man had become ill and lost his job working for the waterworks department, a city job, with little wages.

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  Strange huh?

  Deeds speak a lot more loudly than words (I thought that was one of Jesus' maim themes?).
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  Which did you think was worse, df'd or da'd people?

  by pennycandy in

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  as a jw, when i'd find out someone got disfellowshipped, i'd shake my head and think, "what a selfish person.

  choosing immorality (it had to be immorality) over jehovah.

  i hope i never make such bad choices.

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  Same in my region. Being "DF'd only meant the person was probably "weak" (and it was a punishment administered by the org.). A person who "DA'd" themselves were a "different" matter (rebelliosness was the worst sin anyone could commit).

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  From door to door, to door, to door.......

  by Gill in

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  what's the point i ask you?

  here in the uk, it's an unavoidable fact that the majority of people are out at work, shopping etc.

  if you really wanted to speak to people, and felt an urgent duty because the 'end is near' why aren't the jws in the shopping centres, streets, and generally where the people are?.

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  Mary, I'm glad you weren't my service conductor!

  Thanks very much - do you have any more?

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  Losing faith in the organization

  by parakete in

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  i have been a jw for more than 20 years, but during these past few years i have come to realize that some of the elders and regular publishers are very hypocritical and insensitive.

  they have done things that really disgust me.

  tare so arrogant that they cannot take any criticism form you.

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  Whiskeyjack

  Welcome Parakete.

  This is a great learning environment. Happy reading and hope to "hear" from you soon!

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  Evidence for evolution, Installment 1: Endogenous retroviral sequences

  by seattleniceguy in

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  because i need to continue doing research on this topic, and it always helps me assimilate things if i write them up or otherwise explain them to others, and because i thought others here might be interested, i've decided to start a series.

  in each installment, i'll present one small piece of evidence for evolution.

  hopefully, some of the more knowledgeable people here will chime in with related evidence.

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  Whiskeyjack

  Thanks for all the hard work Seattleguy. Will keep muh eyes peeled for the next installment of your series! (I remember that 7,000 years bit as well)

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