The way I figure it is you will stay a young man until you become an elder and then over night you will become mature. Until you achieve this they will continue to look at you as a young man just so you know you're are not mature yet. IMO!
Moanzy
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Young man....young man?!?!
by logansrun inwhen is a man no longer a "young man"?
i, for instance, am twenty-eight years old (ignore the avatar) and am still called "young man" to this day, by both people i"ve met in person as well as on this message board.
is it really my age?
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WHAT IS INTELLECTUAL HONESTY?
by Terry infreud said:.
"if it were really a matter of indifference what we belive, then we might just as well build our bridges of cardboard as of stone, or inject a tenth of a gram of morphine into a patient instead of a hundredth, or take teargas as a narcotic instead of ether; but the intellectual anarchists themselves would strongly repudiate any such practical applications of their theory.".
intellectual honesty requires a match between the real world; the practical world where things either work or do not work at all.....and the state of mind inside your head.. if there is any mismatch at all the blurred line fuzzes out into failure to recognise what is real and what isn't.. jehovah's witnesses replace the real world with an artificially constructed one.
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I don't know if I "can" be intellectually honest. Since leaving the JWs and realizing I lived in a fake world filled with so many allusions and not being able to get a good education beyond high school, I am busy trying to catch up on basics of life and the world around me.
My husband is continually amazed at the things I just didn't get because much of it is second nature to him. I am starting to be able to tell when someone is either full of crap or just speaking what they believe without full facts. The more I read the more I progress, but I am moons away from being able to back up my claims with full clarity.
Enjoy your post Terri
Moanzy
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Add your own Awake caption!
by doodle-v inok guys, it's awake caption time!!.
here's a blank one for you to use:.
here is the original one:.
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Parents Beware-- Do you let your children exercise without you?
Moanzy
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It is finished, or is it just beginning?
by IP_SEC inwell i am no longer one of jehovah's witnesses.
i had fully intentioned to disassociate myself from the platform today, but i decided that if i wanted a chance to save my marriage that i'd better tell my wife.
she immediately went to to one of the elders.
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IP_SEC,
I hope the relief of everything outweighs some of the emptiness. I remember when I wrote the elders my letter and specifically said I had made my decision and don't wish to discuss it with anyone, I wouldn't answer phone calls, answer my door and generally tried to be gone all the time. I really just couldn't wait for it all to be done with. Thank God it only took them 2 weeks to finally realize I meant I didn't want to talk to them.
There was a large whole to get used to, but I found ways to fill it and carry on. I still don't like the witnesses much(mostly the religion and the self-righteous fools).
All the best
Moanzy
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I miss my mother...
by mrsjones5 in.
my crazy mother who is not talking to any of her kids because she is now playing the role of victum even though she is the one who created the mess.. josie
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Me too! I wish I had at least one of my sisters or brothers(out of 5)and at least my mom! It sure feels crappy to be voted least on the list of our parents priorities. What a shame that our mom's would give up their children for an institution.
Moanzy
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Banning Alcohol
by moanzy ini think the society should ban drinking.
anyone caught drinking should be disfellowshipped.
would anyone have family left in the org if they did that?
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Being that the Society controls every other aspect of JW lives, I just am unable to comprehend why alcohol ISN'T an issue. I know there is councel about over-drinking, but they aren't very serious about it.
The bible doesn't condemn pot smoking or smoking yet it is a disfellowshipping offense. My man smokes pot which of course shocks my family(they think he is evil) yet he is good to me and loves me and a good father and he provides very well. The alcohol in my family has caused much grief. From personal experience, when my husband drank all the time we had violent times and he was just plane nasty. When he either didn't drink or just smoked pot he was wonderful. My sister asked , If I had the choice would I pick alcohol or marij? She was pretty shocked that I adamantly did not pick alcohol. I believe if JW's got their head out of their ass and really thought about this they would either ban alcohol or they would allow pot.
Moanzy
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Banning Alcohol
by moanzy ini think the society should ban drinking.
anyone caught drinking should be disfellowshipped.
would anyone have family left in the org if they did that?
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I think the Society should ban drinking. Anyone caught drinking should be disfellowshipped. Would anyone have family left in the org if they did that? I don't believe a single one of my family would make it. They aren't all heavy drinkers, just most of them!
Moanzy
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Do You Feel You Give To The Board What You Take Out Of It???
by minimus inthis board is quite helpful in a number of ways.
do you feel that you contribute to the growth of this board or are you just a taker?
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I don't think I could ever give back what I have taken from this board. I am not scholarly and I just don't have a lot of time. What I do contribute if it is anything worthwhile is all that I can right now.
Thanks so much to everyone that offers their insights and knowledge freely for people like me.
Moanzy
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Four Years Ago Today, May 28, 2001
by blondie ini made my first post on jwd and was ignored.. .
i was so afraid.
i was still attending meetings and my husband had no idea i was posting on an apostate site.. much has changed; we are both inactive faders and much happier.. thanks to all of you along the way that shed light on the darkness in my life.. love, blondie
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Congrats Blondie, You are my idol
Moanzy
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Advising those getting caught in the JW nets.
by greendawn inif someone feels attracted to the jws to the point of beginning a bible study with them what sort of advice,if any, would you give them at this early stage before she/he gets hopelessly mind conditioned and entangled in their nets?
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i would base my response on the principle that one should first carefully check out the way they (the wts)treat their followers before getting intimately involved with them.
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moanzy
Make sure they know what a cult is and does. They have to be responsible to draw their own conclusion, but they must have the info to do this.
Hopefully they will be able to figure things out early in their study that when the witnesses say that family will be used by satan to try and take you away from God by objecting to their involvement with the org. and they may have to make some choices in their association as far as family goes, they will realize that this is the mind of cult thinking.
Moanzy