i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!
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what say you??
HOSER:
Absolutely it would get ugly fast. I think some people are in denial about that. I can’t say it enough that we have to get up and running again.
If anybody wants to stay home let them. But, I’ll bet they aren’t in immediate danger of starving and can probably get somebody else to do their errands for them.
MEAN MR MUSTARD:
I feel badly for these small businesses. It’s true that people should have savings but for some that’s easier said than done with everything so expensive.
are they revered like the pope is to catholics??
back in the 1960s , fred franz and n.h knorr were the only men that counted.
after franz died, the governing body became more of an idolized entity.
MINIMUS:
I am a long time “fader” and cannot know for certain how the GB is viewed by JWs in general.
Although, some years back when I spoke to an old acquaintance they mentioned they didn’t care for a certain guy who makes all those facial gestures and talks down to everybody like they were little children.
Back when I started my “fade” the GB were mostly unknown except for their names and them giving talks at district conventions. Now, with their public broadcasts and scandals about expensive liquor purchases and TV programs about the religion’s massive problem about child sexual abuse, my opinion is low.
I would really like to know what certain JWs say behind closed doors to their spouses about this. We all know those are the only persons a JW could confide in about their doubts. Anybody else would rat them out.
i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!
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what say you??
SEA BREEZE:
Yes, about twelve months to develop this sounds optimistic. And what about getting it out and then getting everybody to the doctor or wherever to get this vaccine? That’ll surely take a while.
No, we have to get out now and get things going again. Of course we have to be careful..I’d like to think that this awful experience has made everybody more conscious of the fact that they have to act like responsible human beings.
i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!
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what say you??
SEA BREEZE:
Not feasible to be saying people of any age shouldn’t go out until we have a vaccine...We could be waiting a very long time for a coronavirus vaccine!
Unfortunately, some people over sixty still have to go out and work!. Maybe they were Witnesses who listened to the stupid religion and never prepared for retirement or the future. I’m grateful I never listened to their nonsense!
But, even people over sixty who are retired have to go out for groceries or whatever.
i think it’s time for business to reopen and let’s get the economy going again!
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what say you??
MINIMUS:
No question about it. We have to be brave and reopen the economy. Anybody who thought this could stay closed indefinitely was kidding themselves.
The most important thing is that the food supply chain can’t be disrupted. No food means panic, rioting, social disorder, violence and loss of life. If this were to happen there would be no other businesses and whatever society we have would unravel.
I see mask wearing for a very long time maybe indefinitely.
FINKELSTEIN:
I would like a vaccine also. But, I won’t hold my breath.
the watchtower witch-hunters are still sending out subpoena's and closing down websites.
it is safer for simon, this board, and us if we send out internal confidential documents privately.. from time to time i will let you know something has arrived that you might want.
just send us a "pm" and we will give you the download links.. you do not need to include any personal information.
CORVUS:
Welcome to the forum and sorry you were witch-hunted because you spoke about things that are embarrassing to the JW religion.
And we’re a long way from 1975. Sorry you were told you wouldn’t need schooling. So many JWs were told this throughout the years. Even though I wasn’t raised in the religion they do try to sabotage people who have a career!..I would not be Retired today if I listened to them!
this is a comment made in the latest study watchtower under the main discussion of humility.
11 jehovah values humility more than ability and unity more than efficiency.
therefore, do your best to serve jehovah with humility.
LISTENER:
The worthless JW religion is in love with abject servility and this is REALLY what they want from their followers.. They won’t call it this, of course. Instead, they say ‘humility’. But, we all know what they mean.
DATA DOG:
You’re right on the mark about the religion wanting ignorant and compliant followers. They might like the occasional rich JW with a business. That rich JW also loves the idea of desperate JWs working for them for cheap! Everybody’s happy.
It’s also my opinion that the religion wants uneducated people because (I suspect) what happened at some point was that educated people must have gotten into it verbally with ignorant elders/COs..They naturally ended up looking stupid so they issued directives ‘condemning’ higher education.. So, some shithead hurt EGO was at the bottom of this I’ll bet.
I’m sure this attitude also figured into why I was viewed so negatively because of the full time job I had. They not only hated all people with education/careers. But, they hated a woman even more so.. I’m glad I paid no attention to their opinion because I wouldn’t be Retired.
Let them go ask somebody ELSE for charity in this coronavirus crisis they are now jumping on the bandwagon about!
i see a lot of kids that rarely get discipline.
they are allowed to do whatever they want and if someone says something to them they don’t want to hear, they blow them off, ignore them or engage in disrespectful talk.. what’s wrong with today’s parents??
they are producing a generation of entitled brats!.
LV101:
What we see today is many decades in the making. I think it started in the ‘60s and in the years that followed. We saw changes in society, education in schools being watered down, prayer being taken out, teachers hands being tied..(I will say that I am glad teachers cannot raise their hands to children anymore. I was taught by nuns and am glad these frustrated women who know nothing about children CANNOT do what they did years ago.).
So, parents raised after the baby boomers had less in the way of being taught ethics, traditions, whatever. So, they have less to go on - not to mention the economy has forced both parents to work.. This is a recipe for disaster and we are seeing the cake being served.
LAMALLCOOL:
Um..over forty. But, at least I wasn’t raised in the JW religion and never lost memories of what life was like before I made a wrong detour and experienced things I’ll never forget.
I was able before long to feel like my old self again when I began my ‘fade’... The feeling of Freedom again? Priceless!
people want to get back to work, back to "normal" in many cases (whatever normal now means).
even trump is encouraging protesters in 3 states.. but with the covid-19 thing, this is not just a matter of a person taking a risk, as a person may do who smokes, takes illegal drugs or in other ways lives an unhealthy lifestyle.
in general, most (not all, since cost of insurance and public hospitals may be involved), but generally you are not putting the lives of others at risk.
RUB A DUB:
This ‘opening the economy up’ is unfortunately a damned-if-you-do OR damned-if-you-don’t situation!..I hardly think DT is urging people to riot 🙄.
I agree that it should be done carefully, but it DOES have to happen. We cannot all hibernate for the next three months! Maybe celebrities with mansions and storehouses of food can do this, but not everybody else.
Already the meat industry is being disrupted! If this were to continue there would really be empty shelves in supermarkets. There’d be nothing to clean out...THEN there would be a breakdown of social order which doesn’t always hold itself together very well even under the best circumstances. (THEN you’ll see rioting and loss of life!) If this happens..it will be hard to bounce back from!
Businesses are suffering and people are unemployed and I don’t believe they’re ALL even going to get their jobs back!! Even with some things opening soon, this will still be a mess with a lot of troubled people around.
Of course, we want our most vulnerable to be protected - but we have to start somewhere!
