Posts by LongHairGal

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I have a deep seated hatred for the leadership of the JW Cult

by mrquik in

i look back on my life & realize all major mistakes fall at the feet of the jw leadership.

no college, no birthdays, basically no celebrations.

lived my younger years as an outcast.

LongHairGal

GREATTEACHER:

Interesting you say your dad was an elder who ‘always’ held a full time job - and was able to retire at 58 with a pension.

I also had a full time job but treated like shit in the congregation because of it..I guess because I’m a woman, right?..(Double standard).. These covetous idiots (who were apparently bothered by the existence of an independent woman with self-respect - who minded her own business)..thought they were going to get ME to quit my full time job to pursue poverty and pioneer - and do favors for Users to boot. I refused of course and let their garbage go in one ear and out the other! I wouldn’t be Retired today if I had listened.

I’m not the envious type and never resented anybody who was affluent, rich, dripping with diamonds, comfortably well-off or whatever. If they were able to retire early - fabulous. But, what I DID and do mind are older hypocrites who already had a job/pension under their belt who attempted to interfere in my life as a young person. Luckily, I never listened!..Maybe because I wasn’t born in.

There is absolutely No forgiveness in my book for what I experienced in the JW religion and this is mostly why I got the hell out.

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I have a deep seated hatred for the leadership of the JW Cult

by mrquik in

i look back on my life & realize all major mistakes fall at the feet of the jw leadership.

no college, no birthdays, basically no celebrations.

lived my younger years as an outcast.

LongHairGal

MRQUIK:

I feel some of your pain and I wasn’t even a born-in.

I’m a twenty year ‘Fader’...What particularly bothers me is that there appears to be no accountability. Time just marches on, people die and the wrong done to them is forgotten, etc. I’m just grateful I followed my gut years ago..The only thing I can take comfort in is that the internet and the media exposes everything today and young JWs aren’t going to remain ignorant like in times past.

You deserve to get some happiness out of life!

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QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

by gone for good in

a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

here is the document .

https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

LongHairGal

GONE FOR GOOD:

Hi. I’m sorry if I misunderstood as I thought your intent was to stop shunning by submitting this signed and dated document. I see where you are coming from in that you want to stop the disfellowshipping of voluntary leavers.

However, if you were able to do this, what would it accomplish as far as the religion is concerned? Whether DFd or voluntary leaver: they see you as Out. It’s a distinction without much of a difference. It’s sort of like saying I quit so that somebody can’t say they were fired. Once somebody submitted this written document there would be a private meeting about the person and it would be put in their file. Even though there would be no formal announcement, the gossip would start and the person would be the talk of the town. There would be gatherings where the person is the topic of conversation and the whole circuit knows.

Having no announcement made does not mean a person will retain their friends and family there. I don’t think you can win here..Even if somebody retained one friend, this person would be your friend secretly and would not broadcast it because then THEY would be judged.

Of course, none of this matters if a person wants to leave and not have anything to do with anybody there. The problem arises if somebody hopes to defeat the JW system in general to avoid being shunned or gossiped about because this would be a lost cause. I would say just Move On with your life!

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Thoughts on Zoom

by waton in

the wt sponsored zoom meetings reduce individual freedom, spirituality.

the wt sponsored zoom meetings enables ego maniacs, narcissists to have their influence beamed right into your living room.

conversations that were private, personal are now broadcast, forced on all participants.

LongHairGal

WATON:

Earlier on in 2020 when I read about Zoom meetings for JWs, I felt this was an invasion of privacy.

At least when a person attended the hall, when they went home and closed their door they were in privacy. With Zoom they can see right into your home and even make comments on things you have hanging on YOUR walls. (I would be livid if somebody did this.)..Plus, a person is supposed to be dressed up just to be in their own house!! Also, there is an assumption that because people are mostly home because of Covid that you should always be available for a Zoom meeting or conference. In other words, a person can’t hide.

I would hope that after all these months and now that we are into the New Year, that these intrusive Zoom meetings have lost their charm and more JWs are switching off the camera. That way busybodies can’t see into people’s homes or make criticisms about the decor, people’s dress or whatever!

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QUITTING QUIETLY here is the Canadian version of the document

by gone for good in

a while back, i suggested that an easy, quick, quiet exit with the signing and dating of a concise and irrefutable document would spur faders and pimos to preempt the elders' interference by quitting quietly first , before a fade or a confrontation.

here is the document .

https://1drv.ms/w/s!avoitfxyvyqghq3gbmkhfyqp_jqp?e=8bttg1.

LongHairGal

GONE FOR GOOD:

If the purpose of this letter is to prevent a JW from being shunned by other JWs in the congregation, I do not believe it will work - regardless of what any JW or soon to be ex-JW says about their so-called status as a believer, non-believer or whatever.

Maybe in their files it will say you stated you were no longer a JW on such and such a date (for legal purposes), but this will not prevent you from being shunned.

The plain fact is that nobody can force people to talk to them or associate with them. And we all know what they are like with shunning and judgmentalism - even with people active in the religion. If somebody were to submit a letter like this - they have no idea what’s being said about them and what it will be perceived to be in the JWs who hear about it.

If I submitted such a letter and afterwards were in a store - and my former JW friends ignore me when I say hello..if I ran after them waving the letter in my hand saying in a loud voice what it states..will that compel these JWs to change their attitude towards me?? I doubt it.

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How many TRUE BELIEVERS do you think are left in the Organization?

by pistolpete in

i have a few jw relatives who are true believers.

by this i mean, they believe with all their heart that 1914 was the beginning of the last days, that this is the last generation, that we are in the very last of the last hour of this system of things, and that you should obey the governing body even if it does not make sense.

all of them are in their 60s and up into their 90s there is nothing you can say or show them to convince them or even cause a small doubt that the wt is not god organization.

LongHairGal

PHIZZY:

You are probably right that there are several grades of “Depth of Delusion”. In addition to that there are levels of fakery among JWs. So, in any congregation it is impossible to know how many people there even believe it. And of those who do, how much? One thing is for certain: that number of people is surely dwindling.

All I know is that I am not among that number having gotten myself out of this trap about twenty years ago. I am so grateful I wasn’t the obedient type to accept what the GB and others said. I wouldn’t be Retired if I was a ‘true believer’ or follower. Maybe because I wasn’t born-in? Who knows.

Let’s try to have a Happy New Year and be glad we’re Out.

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Opportunities you had to give up as Jw?

by Overrated in

jw
friends

i could of gone to a two college program.

but gee-hovah didn't like it and my parents wanted me to sling watchtowers and awakes.

it's a good thing i'm in a profession that i can work and pay the bill's and finally left the "trooth "..

LongHairGal

MAGNUM:

I want to wish you a Happy New Year.

I also despised talking to JWs who were dense (deliberately so in my opinion) when you tried to make an important point to them about some situation or hypocrisy related to the JWs.

Yes, it’s true that that guy didn’t like his secular job..many don’t. But, the distinction is that they are getting PAID - as opposed to JWs who are knocking themselves out for Free. Of course, some fools would say they are being ‘blessed’ 🤮. Yeah, they can keep their blessings.

I think many JWs will not be honest with you when you attempt to point out things to them. Probably if they were to do so..maybe it would call into question everything else they believe in and cognitive dissonance will kick in and it will send them into a depression..I had fruitless discussions with married JW women I was friendly with when I attempted to tell them what I encountered and how I was criticized for supporting myself - meanwhile a man was supporting them!!

People in general are sometimes unable to think about other people’s difficult situations. But, in my experience, JWs in particular are in denial about difficulties caused by following the religion’s advice and many other things!

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What Will You Be Doing On New Year’s Eve?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i can’t remember the last time i stayed in on new year’s eve.

every year we went out and made this date a real party.

it was a celebration that included a night out, a stay in a hotel , eating, drinking and dancing to live music!.

LongHairGal

MINIMUS:

I expect to be home! 😊

WING COMMANDER:

Wow, I never did get around to being in Times Square for New Year’s Eve, but, to be perfectly honest, I have no desire to be out in such a crowd with no accommodations.😮 But, I’m glad you got to have a memorable New Year’s celebration! 👍🏻

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TO SELECTED BODIES OF ELDERS ASSIGNED TO THE COVID-19

by pixel in

december 25, 2020. to selected bodies of elders assigned to the covid-19.

re: adjustments to arrangements for meeting family food needs during the covid-19 pandemic.

dear brothers:.

LongHairGal

FEDUPJW:

I am sorry that your parents were ignored and ridiculed!! What you say is probably true:..those who worked hard or had savings or set aside provisions, etc. would be guilted into giving to those as you say who were ‘too lazy or stupid’ to do so.

What I’m getting the sense of is they are trying to get people to be co-dependent.

I hate being right, but I predicted things would be bad in congregations because of decades of being told they shouldn’t have careers or plan for Retirement. This is against all common sense!! The JWs in congregations who never planned were in trouble long before Covid!..Adding to that the bethelites who got kicked out in recent years plus troubled types recruited to fill empty seats in halls - not a good scenario.

Naturally, anybody there NOW who even has a job, looks halfway decent, seems to have their act together or isn’t downright nuts - is going to be targeted like they were an ATM machine! ..I’m so glad I got out years ago because this is what I would be faced with. Yes..the retired me who was criticized and shunned way back when for having a full time job!

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Who was it who ''rescued'', or ''saved'' you?

by Beth Sarim in

from the borg?.

i point to none other than cal lehman and the towerwatch ministries.

towewatch.com.. the years following the collapse of the ussr and the 1995 generation left a bad taste in my mouth for a long time.

LongHairGal

BETH SARIM:

There was no particular person who ‘saved’ me from the religion. But, you mentioned the 1995 Generation thing.

This was IT for me when this article on Generation came out..No getting away from this fact..I felt sucker punched and knew it was over - in a way that nothing else made me feel up to that point. I knew I could no longer continue in the JW religion and so I planned my ‘Fade’ and walked away a few years later.