JHINE:
Yes, it is that time of year. I always loved it.
Merry Christmas to everybody! đđ
it's that time of year again .
in the words of the bard ( noddy holder ) " it's christmaaas " .
merry christmas everybody .
JHINE:
Yes, it is that time of year. I always loved it.
Merry Christmas to everybody! đđ
yesterday was remembrance day/veterans days in canada.
we had a couple younger half wits in the cong in field service yesterday.
both are trying to climb the ladder with the entire elder body ready to die in the next 10 years.. i just of thought it was a dick move to go door to door about the merits of fighting for freedom or not fighting on such a sacred day.
NOT FORMER:
You said it and it cannot be stressed enough that the Witness religion is a âcontrarian group that has issues with mainstream churches and governmentâ.
They differ for the sake of being different, IMHO. They use excuses of âpaganâ when most other things in society are pagan.
In my case, I was raised Roman Catholic and in the beginning the JWs tried to isolate me from my non-JW friends and family.. I had my lightbulb moment one Thanksgiving weekend in the later years when I was all alone looking at four walls.. No JWs to be seen or heard (probably celebrating in secret). Meanwhile I was all alone like some fool. Even though this was one weekend in the year, it was indicative of how I was treated.. These Witnesses didnât give a sh#t about me and I was already soft-shunned like Typhoid Mary over my full-time job.. So, what the hell was I doing?
So, I thought to myself that I could be having a great meal with my family who really cared about me... Instead, I was left feeling like I was fighting somebodyâs private war like some nut in the mountains. I took stock of a lot of things⊠From that moment forward I privately marginalized the JW religion in my mind because I knew I had to get out of there.. I started to send out Holiday greeting cards to estranged family members.
Then the 1995 Generation teaching happened and it was truly over. I reconnected with my family (that those idiots tried to separate me from) before it was too late and I celebrate the Holidays even more appreciative than when I was a child.
Merry Christmas everyone!đ
i couldn't get back to sleep last night, something my father said a few weeks ago popped into my head.. we were talking about obtaining citizenship, he doesn't need it, but was contemplating what benefits it could get him now he's a pensioner.. background : i've been disfellowhipped for 15 years, i was born in, he is an elder, very much pimi, he was also born in.. i said to him how citizenship would be difficult for him as it would require him to swear allegiance to the state?.
oh he said, thats just a crowd of people together in a big room for the swearing in event, it would be easy to just mumble or say nothing, nobody would know.. this has quietly been eating away in my mind, why did it bother me?.
last night it hit me, when i was in my first year of school, age 5, i came out of school one day with a balloon with two little pencils attached, a gift from a classmate who's birthday it was, every child got one.
SEA BREEZE:
I also believe people who defend the religion might have Stockholm Syndrome or suffer from Sunk Cost Fallacy.
This is why the older Witness die-hards there are âgoing down with the shipâ. Well, let them. These are the people who shunned or tried to assassinate my character because I worked full-time back in the day. I was scoffed at to my face.. Thankfully, I held onto my job until retirement.
People making their way out of the Jehovahâs Witness religion today (especially at an older age) are facing the worst economy in decades. Even people with college degrees have problems finding suitable employment.. How much harder would it be for people climbing their way out of a hole??? I wish Good Luck for all those brave people everywhere!đđ»
lets see if that causes a problem.
i've been inactive for a very long time now (like 10+ years), so, i don't expect to hear anything from it, but my parents are worried i'll get df.
lets see what happens.
BETH SARIM:
I believe the true purpose to get people not to celebrate holidays is to separate them from their non-Witness family and friends. The goal is to isolate them.
The pagan thing is just a convenient excuse. Besides, other things are pagan like days of the week, the calendar, etc. The religion is afraid if the Witness compares the loving treatment by their non-JW family versus the judgmental coldness they get in the Kingdom Hall they wonât want the JW religion anymore. I am sure some people have figured this out.
In my case, I happily reconnected with estranged family and relatives before it was too late. I am ever grateful for this.
how do jws major in minors?.
by the way, jws aren't the only ones.. .
RILEY:
I consider the OP a little vague.
But, regarding your post it is really sad that those singles have only other Jehovahâs Witness to hang out with! In the real world this group would not be thrown together.
It is very unhealthy and stifling that JWs donât bother with any other groups. (Is this majoring in a minor thing?) As someone not raised in the JWs I thought they were peculiar.
And a 9 year old is a child and should be with children in a similar age range. The most disturbing thing in your post is the 48 year old who never worked a day in his life. Not as uncommon as you might think in the JW religion - âmental issuesâ or not. You donât mention if this person is supported by their family. I would assume so.
All in all itâs an unhealthy situation.
lets see if that causes a problem.
i've been inactive for a very long time now (like 10+ years), so, i don't expect to hear anything from it, but my parents are worried i'll get df.
lets see what happens.
STEPHANE LALIBERTE:
Good for you putting up Christmas lightsâŠI am a long-time âFaderâ and I donât care who sees that I now celebrate the Holidays (again).. I wasnât raised a JW and always loved Christmas.
RON W:
Yeah it really is an abominable religion that wonât leave people in peace.. If any old JW busybodies stumble upon my FB page they will see undeniable proof that Iâm into the Christmas spirit.. After all these years, I am well past caring what those miserable people think.
two folks from the local kh visited the house yesterday looking for my wife who is an on again off again baptized jw.
wife was not available so they asked me to tell her about a special talk on marriage next week.
any outlines available for this âspecial talkâ or could this potentially be a local issue?.
RILEY:
I am really sorry to hear about that JW woman!
When I came into the Witnesses as a young working woman, I saw all the desirable men were taken. The rest I wasnât interested in.đ A woman there with any sense has to look outside the religion for a man. The religion definitely has a double standard about finding a partner outside. A man gets a âpassâ but a woman is judged. This is because the JW religion wants women around as drudges to do favors. They KNOW once she is married they can no longer freely approach her.. In my case, even though I was single, the answer was always No if they came near me looking for anything⊠Since I was knocked/shunned for working full-time I wouldnât do favors for anybody there.
BTW, this DOUBLE STANDARD also applied to secular work/full-time jobs.. A man there wouldnât be told he should quit a decent job and do housecleaning - but yet these bastards tried this with me.. It didnât work.
ROAD TO NOWHERE:
Those âpioneer leechesâ you describe never got anything from me!! I was outraged that some JWs thought they were not going to work and thought people would give them âhandoutsâ.đ.. I felt they should go ask their spiritual friends for $$.
i was once was told by an jw elder it was a rule not to gossip or swear as it could harm someone, but i guess the new light allows this.
it was bad enough when they were calling people worldly now i heard a jw gossiping about someone and it was mean.just another reason i would never go back.
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FEDUPJW & BALAAMSASS2:
All true what you say. There is no respect for any boundaries whatsoever in the Witnesses and also thinking a single woman is a sexual threat, no matter how absurd it is and how unattractive most of the men were!đ
I am many years âFadedâ and told certain JWs I occasionally communicate with that I would never go back for several reasons - the biggest one being I would never tolerate their lack of boundaries and I would have to tell people off over this and them asking for thing$.đ
i was reading an anti cult reddit post where a woman (ex mormon) was trying her hardest to discourage the mormons from visiting her and trying to convert her back.
a few others chimed in about their various methods (coming to the door naked, pretending to be practicing black magic, etc.
) which they claimed would have the mormons and jws running away as fast as possible.. somehow, i doubt it.
I had two Witness men knock on my door over a year ago.
They were working the area and didnât know me. I was polite to them but gave them an abbreviated story of my experience as a working person who got âshunnedâ . I said I wouldnât have retired if I didnât work.
I said Iâd never go back to the religion and am not interested in being asked to give money or charity for people there who hardly worked if at all.. So, I doubt these JWs would call on me again!đ€Ł
i was once was told by an jw elder it was a rule not to gossip or swear as it could harm someone, but i guess the new light allows this.
it was bad enough when they were calling people worldly now i heard a jw gossiping about someone and it was mean.just another reason i would never go back.
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NANCY1919:
Yes, welcome to the forum.
Witnesses have perfected gossip to an art. Thereâs absolutely nothing like it! Sadly, they are lacking in Christian qualities like love, kindness and compassion.. Instead, they are filled with secret jealousies, pettiness and every other evil.. All under the mask of righteousness, of course.
Everybody got gossiped about there back when I was in - but it was people like me on the fringes who worked a full-time job that got panned and shunned the most! Also, I wasnât raised in the religion and there was a subtle bias against people who were not.
I finally âFadedâ out of there after their 1995 Generation teaching. Time to leave. I knew they didnât know what they were talking about and were just stringing everybody along!