I am so sorry for what Barbara is going through with her dear husband Joe! I have witnessed what this is like with a parent and it is not easy.đ
I wish her strength and blessings!
from barbara:.
my dear husband, joe anderson, has had very real problems with his short-term memory for at least a year which really worried me.
as his mental health deteriorated, i decided to have our local longtime physician talk alone with joe during an office visit last september.
I am so sorry for what Barbara is going through with her dear husband Joe! I have witnessed what this is like with a parent and it is not easy.đ
I wish her strength and blessings!
this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.
(i donât go on jw dot org).
it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. donât know what to say except that iâm so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.
I donât know if anybody here is familiar with JT and Lady Cee (ex-JW Critical Thinkers).
I stumbled upon them by accident. They are a husband and wife team and they are so witty and well informed. They have two new videos just released.
In one of them JT talks about Failed Teachings and he brings up the topic of JWs who made major life decisions on the say-so of uneducated men. He mentions all the people who walked away from good jobs to pioneer (Glad I never did this).
Nobody ever got an apology (donât we know that) and âolder people who got burnedâ were told they âserved Jehovah with a complete heartâ... But he says that âcomplete heartâ wonât pay the rent or the grocery bill in 2025! Ainât that the truth.
So, there must be legions of Witnesses reaching out who are suffering today because they made important life decisions decades ago regarding jobs and financial planning on the say-so of uneducated men in a religion who probably havenât missed a meal.
this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.
(i donât go on jw dot org).
it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. donât know what to say except that iâm so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.
JOHNR1975:
Theyâre being subtle about it but there seems to be a slow turn in another direction.
It is not just about fearing more âyoung onesâ waking up, I think itâs about too many still living old Witnesses who are presently negatively affected by the religionâs stand against careers.. So the religion has to be careful lest they rile up too many of these faithful older JWs.. In my opinion, the religion is playing a waiting game. When enough of the baby boomers are gone they will then do a total about-face and be very vocal about how people should âsave money and prepare for the futureâ. They will act like they âalways said thisâ.
Meanwhile, those of us who are grateful we planned and never listened all those years ago will know otherwise!
speaking to an old elder friend recently about his decision to home school his high school aged kids.. he claims that here in australia, about 30% of the students that log into online classrooms are jw's.
the others are disabled kids - who cant physically attend class and the rest are long distance students.. another generation of under-educated jw kids on the way..
JOEY JOJO:
I agree with you that many JWs homeschool their children to avoid reality and isolate their children from society in general.
While it is possible for homeschooling to be a success - it is a rarity in the Witnesses. Successful homeschooling usually involves very dedicated parents who are usually educated themselves. Too many Witnesses end up grossly ignorant and barely literate after homeschooling.. It is like they were brought up in a broom closet.
At least somebody who went to public school got exposure to real education with qualified teachers. They also picked up useful things about the world they live in and interacting with the human race.
w64 11/1 pp.
645-646 wolves in sheepâs covering - "can you detect them?
how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: âlook out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, âi am he [anointed],â and, âthe due time has approached.â do not go after them.â (luke 21:8) .
In my opinion, too many religious leaders end up like wolves in sheepâs clothing. Even if it starts out with good intentions it always ends up this way it seems.
I have had enough experience with religion to last two lifetimes. Getting involved with the Witness religion was an unpleasant life lesson learned for me after being raised Roman Catholic..
I consider myself to be agnostic at this point and am done with it all!
https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.
whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?
due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovahâs witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.
LV101:
Thanks again for telling the truth of what really goes on in the Jehovahâs Witness congregations. They are steeped in a culture of poverty. Too many have wrong attitudes about work and personal responsibility. There was terrible treatment of people like me who worked at a REAL job. Thankfully, I ignored them.
The world would be shocked if they knew the level of deadbeat-ism and predatory behavior there.. As somebody raised Roman Catholic, I was always appalled by it.
Can you imagine what would happen if I were stupid enough to show my face in the JW religion now after being happily Out many years?? People who hardly worked and delusional idiots would make their way over to me to either ask for handouts or make nosy inquiries about my business!đł
I would have to be out of my mind to tolerate this behavior at this point in my life.
https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.
whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?
due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovahâs witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.
LV101:
Thank you for saying that.
Some people on the forum (either current or ex-Witnesses) might resent me for using the term âdeadbeatâ and me saying I donât want to give JWs who didnât work $ or charity.. This bothers them so they will downvote my post. But, they arenât courageous enough to put into words why.. They either donât understand or care that I got criticized/shunned by Witnesses because I worked OR they imagine they are âowedâ something.. Well, not by me theyâre not.
Who did they work or volunteer for?? The religion, thatâs who. Go ask them.
My philosophy is that you donât get to criticize somebody for working a REAL job instead of being in the ministry - and then when things donât work out for you imagine you are going to ask that same person for money.. It doesnât work that way, IMO.
https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.
whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?
due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovahâs witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.
CAREFUL:
Regarding this DFâd sister who returned so she can see her family but who stopped attending because she doesnât want to deal with the intrusiveness: is anybody surprised?
This no boundaries thing has got to be the most repulsive thing about the Witness religion and itâs too bad they donât adjust their policies about this.. Iâm sure well over half of people who stay away is because of this - in addition to their crap man-made teachings.
I walked away almost 24 years ago and this was my primary reason after the 1995 Generation thing.. I was done forever with their garbage.. Long ago I might have tolerated this nonsense but certainly not now.
Besides, they wouldnât want somebody like me now because Iâm older and wiser and my every other phrase would be âthatâs none of your businessâ in addition to âNoâ when asked by deadbeats for $.. This would pose a problem for the Users and busybodies there.đ
this is the watchtower study article being studied today.
so itâs the current new light!.
what are the new qualifications to be an âelder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.
HOSER:
That was very smart of you to put together a retirement package when you were relatively young (early 30s). Thatâs what I did. Only I am a woman and was never an MS.đ¤Ł
Itâs too bad that ill treatment and adversity made you do this. So, if you were treated better back then, you might be in a serious predicament today! Iâm sure you realize now (as I do) that it was worth every penny in the end to be treated badly by ignorant people.
I think the religion is sunk if all they have are very young elders! These young guys wonât have what it takes to hound people like the older men of the recent past who are mostly deceased by now. (Not that this would be well tolerated now.)
These young guys are also less likely to be nasty and over-righteous and say absurd or boundary-crossing things like I experienced years ago with deluded older men there - but I resisted.. Nah, they didnât get anywhere with me.. I am Out many years and good riddance to it all.
But, the point being: these young elders wonât be able to guilt trip or manipulate anybody.. And the religion is ALL about manipulation, IMO.
https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.
whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?
due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovahâs witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.
NATHAN NATAS:
Thanks for telling it like it is.
In addition to all that, theyâd be returning to an environment with many disappointed and sometimes desperate people! At least back when I left in around 2001 I didnât sense this. It was a better environment in the hall with the âhopeâ the new system was coming soon to save everybody.
Now all these years later with all the discarded teachings and everybody getting older? Forget it.
ANONY MOUS:
I understand what you mean about âno restitutionâ with regards to people conned into not providing for their future. What a shame.