Posts by LongHairGal

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The org's failed last days predictions were "well meant."

by BoogerMan in

w93 6/1 p. 15 par.

6 be sound in mind - the end is close - "of course, well-meaning, faithful christians in the past have sincerely tried to predict when the end would come.".

more than 140 years of a sincere & well-meaning "it's coming soon" from the org, can be swept under the carpet - nothing to see here!.

LongHairGal

BOOGER MAN:

”Well meant” isn’t good enough, regardless of what the religion thinks.

This goes hand in hand with the worn out statement used by many Jehovah’s Witnesses when they are backed into a corner: “it’s the closest thing to the truth”. Again, ‘closest’ just doesn’t cut it. Something either is or is not truth.

The tragedy are the millions of Witnesses who made serious life decisions on these failed predictions decades ago. They didn’t get careers or save for retirement convinced it ‘wasn’t necessary’.. I am so Glad I never fell for any of this years ago.. I cringe when I think about it.

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

LongHairGal

MIKEJW:

I am sorry about your situation and hope you and other JWs are able to get decent work and stay afloat financially. This world is very hard to live in even for those of us who planned!

You are correct that those older Jehovah’s Witnesses who made presumptuous statements that younger people in the congregation wouldn’t need to plan for retirement are all gone by now.. They went to their graves after living a comfortable life.. I observed that many had BEEN in the workforce when younger.. But, yet, I was knocked for being in it.

I was an unusual JW because I wasn’t raised in the religion. I came in already with the full-time job. Wow, you should have seen the hate campaign against me because I wouldn’t quit my job. Well, it’s history and I’m Glad I never listened.

I am sure many of the numerous older JWs today feel like they got slapped in the face when some idiot elder told them “they served (J) with a complete heart”.. In my opinion, it was the religion they served for a lifetime and they got nothing but a handful of wishes.. How infuriating.

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

LongHairGal

I do hope that all of this internet exposure - including forums like this and many other ex-JW activists with their numerous YouTube videos helps to prevent more young Witnesses from falling into the trap many of their predecessors did!

Please plan for your future with a decent job and savings!.. Ignore busybodies like I did.. Remember: the Bible tells us to save! It was only the religion who twisted this all around to say something it didn’t.. Let no young person today end up like older broke Witnesses who didn’t plan and who ended up being told..”Well, you served Jehovah with a complete heart”.. Like this is supposed to mean something(?)

Nobody wants to hear a condescending statement like this as a half-assed consolation prize after a lifetime of ‘service’ while they are left with nothing at an advanced age. So tragic and unnecessary.

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A message from Barbara Anderson re: the health state of her hero, her husband, Joe Anderson

by jwleaks in

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friends

from barbara:.

my dear husband, joe anderson, has had very real problems with his short-term memory for at least a year which really worried me.

as his mental health deteriorated, i decided to have our local longtime physician talk alone with joe during an office visit last september.

LongHairGal

I am so sorry for what Barbara is going through with her dear husband Joe! I have witnessed what this is like with a parent and it is not easy.😞

I wish her strength and blessings!

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

LongHairGal

I don’t know if anybody here is familiar with JT and Lady Cee (ex-JW Critical Thinkers).

I stumbled upon them by accident. They are a husband and wife team and they are so witty and well informed. They have two new videos just released.

In one of them JT talks about Failed Teachings and he brings up the topic of JWs who made major life decisions on the say-so of uneducated men. He mentions all the people who walked away from good jobs to pioneer (Glad I never did this).

Nobody ever got an apology (don’t we know that) and ‘older people who got burned’ were told they ‘served Jehovah with a complete heart’... But he says that ‘complete heart’ won’t pay the rent or the grocery bill in 2025! Ain’t that the truth.

So, there must be legions of Witnesses reaching out who are suffering today because they made important life decisions decades ago regarding jobs and financial planning on the say-so of uneducated men in a religion who probably haven’t missed a meal.

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Reddit thread - ‘Organization Finally Suggesting to Plan for Retirement’

by LongHairGal in

jw
friends

this information is supposed to be in the upcoming march wt.

(i don’t go on jw dot org).

it would sound like they are hinting at a change in thinking.. in my opinion, any such change would be yet another slap in the face to faithful pimis along with those other recent changes.. there are so many heartfelt responses on that thread and a lot of justified anger.. don’t know what to say except that i’m so glad i never listened to the religion all those years ago.

LongHairGal

JOHNR1975:

They’re being subtle about it but there seems to be a slow turn in another direction.

It is not just about fearing more ‘young ones’ waking up, I think it’s about too many still living old Witnesses who are presently negatively affected by the religion’s stand against careers.. So the religion has to be careful lest they rile up too many of these faithful older JWs.. In my opinion, the religion is playing a waiting game. When enough of the baby boomers are gone they will then do a total about-face and be very vocal about how people should ‘save money and prepare for the future’. They will act like they ‘always said this’.

Meanwhile, those of us who are grateful we planned and never listened all those years ago will know otherwise!

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JW's home schooling over-representing

by joey jojo in

speaking to an old elder friend recently about his decision to home school his high school aged kids.. he claims that here in australia, about 30% of the students that log into online classrooms are jw's.

the others are disabled kids - who cant physically attend class and the rest are long distance students.. another generation of under-educated jw kids on the way..

LongHairGal

JOEY JOJO:

I agree with you that many JWs homeschool their children to avoid reality and isolate their children from society in general.

While it is possible for homeschooling to be a success - it is a rarity in the Witnesses. Successful homeschooling usually involves very dedicated parents who are usually educated themselves. Too many Witnesses end up grossly ignorant and barely literate after homeschooling.. It is like they were brought up in a broom closet.

At least somebody who went to public school got exposure to real education with qualified teachers. They also picked up useful things about the world they live in and interacting with the human race.

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How to spot wolves in sheep's clothing!

by BoogerMan in

w64 11/1 pp.

645-646 wolves in sheep’s covering - "can you detect them?

how can you avoid becoming their prey?....to his first-century disciples jesus sounded a warning that applies to us today with even greater force: “look out that you are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘i am he [anointed],’ and, ‘the due time has approached.’ do not go after them.” (luke 21:8) .

LongHairGal

In my opinion, too many religious leaders end up like wolves in sheep’s clothing. Even if it starts out with good intentions it always ends up this way it seems.

I have had enough experience with religion to last two lifetimes. Getting involved with the Witness religion was an unpleasant life lesson learned for me after being raised Roman Catholic..

I consider myself to be agnostic at this point and am done with it all!

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Whatever Happened to Those who returned to JEHOVAH

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.

whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?

due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovah’s witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.

LongHairGal

LV101:

Thanks again for telling the truth of what really goes on in the Jehovah’s Witness congregations. They are steeped in a culture of poverty. Too many have wrong attitudes about work and personal responsibility. There was terrible treatment of people like me who worked at a REAL job. Thankfully, I ignored them.

The world would be shocked if they knew the level of deadbeat-ism and predatory behavior there.. As somebody raised Roman Catholic, I was always appalled by it.

Can you imagine what would happen if I were stupid enough to show my face in the JW religion now after being happily Out many years?? People who hardly worked and delusional idiots would make their way over to me to either ask for handouts or make nosy inquiries about my business!😳

I would have to be out of my mind to tolerate this behavior at this point in my life.

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Whatever Happened to Those who returned to JEHOVAH

by raymond frantz in

https://youtu.be/3yylzu0bi_k?si=kku6r9szfenj3h9i.

whatever happened to those who came back to jehovah?

due to slow growth and the constant scrutiny from governments like norway in relation to their harsh disfellowshipping practices,last year in a move that no one expected the watchtower for the first time extended an olive branch to all those who left the organization or were disfellowshipped in the past.considering this practice was introduced over 60 years ago and with a rough estimate that around 100,000 leave jehovah’s witnesses every year the total number is in the several millions.so we should have expected millions to have accepted this invitation and rejoined the organization, the result though was an abysmal few thousands according to a recent jw update.. so now, for the first time, the latest watchtower study magazine for april 2025 gives us an inside view on how this reintegration is coming along, and it doesn't look good!.

LongHairGal

LV101:

Thank you for saying that.

Some people on the forum (either current or ex-Witnesses) might resent me for using the term ‘deadbeat’ and me saying I don’t want to give JWs who didn’t work $ or charity.. This bothers them so they will downvote my post. But, they aren’t courageous enough to put into words why.. They either don’t understand or care that I got criticized/shunned by Witnesses because I worked OR they imagine they are ‘owed’ something.. Well, not by me they’re not.

Who did they work or volunteer for?? The religion, that’s who. Go ask them.

My philosophy is that you don’t get to criticize somebody for working a REAL job instead of being in the ministry - and then when things don’t work out for you imagine you are going to ask that same person for money.. It doesn’t work that way, IMO.