Posts by LongHairGal

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Radical shake up

by Mikejw in

imagine if all the governing body resigned and a new set of brothers came in and said we are very very sorry for all those who have been disfellowshipped and disassociated over the years.

we know many mistakes have been made.

we are really genuinely sorry to all those who have been hurt and especially those who have died and been hurt by these mistakes.

LongHairGal

MIKE JW:

I agree with MAGNUM and I think anybody who would go running back in your scenario to be a glutton for punishment.

Not only that, just what are they going back to? ..At least when I walked away in 2001 over the 1995 Generation thing + bad attitudes in the congregation - things were ‘normal’ with no desperation yet or panhandling.. Even the pioneers who didn’t plan weren’t worried yet.

Now, we are 23 years later. Things are bad in the economy and the congregations with many daydreamers reaching retirement age unprepared… What would happen if I were stupid enough to show my face there?? I guarantee some moron would approach me (a person knocked for working, I might add) and ask for money - for people there who didn’t work!.. I have told my JW ‘friends’ from the old days and even Witnesses at my door that I would never tolerate this.. I’m afraid that’s how it is now in many congregations.👎 You can have it.

21

Field Service

by Ding in

for those who are still attending meetings, what is happening at your congregation regarding field service now that reporting of hours is no longer required?.

are the elders pushing for people to go out in service anyway?.

what is the response?.

LongHairGal

MAGNUM:

In addition to what you mentioned, what about people harmed by following the religion’s advice?? (People led to believe they didn’t need to prepare for old age and retirement).. How could a just God not understand how misled people were???

As you know. they discarded that 100 year old teaching about counting time at their annual meeting.. I was judged over this and will never forget!!! Thankfully, I paid no attention years ago and did what I had to do, which was work. (You have mentioned your situation.) What about the many thousands of JWs in a similar or worse predicament now - and at an advanced age no less?

And no apologies (or anything else) to anybody.

I wonder what the majority of the JWs really think about these changes.

17

Enjoy hope without disappointment

by Mikejw in

todays watchtower is very interesting on many levels.

they know that millions are disappointed.. https://www.jw.org/finder?srcid=jwlshare&wtlocale=e&prefer=lang&docid=2023681.

i also found it interesting they talk about brother fred franz and show his picture.

LongHairGal

MIKEJW:

They need an article like this after the disappointment caused by the changes in their 2023 Annual Meeting.

I am long Out so it doesn’t matter to me - but very many Witnesses must be deeply depressed over these changes (especially the one about not needing to report hours). I got judged over this and glad I never listened.

I watched a You Tube by an ex-JW who talks about how they went ‘scorched earth’ on their own teachings! Any intelligent JWs must come to the same conclusions. How could it not bother them?

DING:

Nineteen Seventy Five was before my time in the JW religion. There must have been many thousands ruined by the bad advice they got. These people did more than ‘grow old’ - many have passed away… Sadly, people who came in after ‘75 got similar bad advice to not get careers, etc. Thankfully, I never paid any mind to anything said there!

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The Vaccine mandate has been lifted, with no explanation or apologies

by redsetter2 in

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LongHairGal

REDSETTER2:

Welcome to the forum. I sometimes look at Reddit and see it’s a young crowd. As to it being toxic, who knows? Some disgruntled persons thought that about this place. But, I think toxicity is in the eyes of the beholder.

I haven’t seen this vaccine news on Reddit unless I missed it.

This is very interesting and probably done for legal reasons - which I believe is the force behind the other recent changes. Theocratic? Don’t make me laugh.. But, I always felt the religion shouldn’t have been sticking its nose into people’s medical business!

I never got that vaccine anyway but it makes no difference since I’m Out of the religion.

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The Day two JW kids murdered their parents.

by LDH in

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friends

for those of you who are unfamiliar with the story, which is ten years old now.

the freeman brothers of allentown pennsylvania lashed out against their strict upbringing by killing their loyal jw parents and even their younger brother.. the story made national headlines because these two had tattoos on their foreheads.

"berzerker" and "sieg heil.".

LongHairGal

I remember when this crime occurred. I was still working and was active in the religion at the time.

I didn’t know what to make of it then except that I felt sorry for those parents and wondered what got into those boys to do what they did.

Looking at it now - as a person who is Out of the religion and Know what I know and how toxic it is, I see it a little differently. First of all, I certainly don’t condone what they did. But, I look at the level of anger displayed in the savagery of the attacks. These were two boys probably intelligent who lived under restrictions that they knew were unfair and subject to bullying. Also, I wonder how they were treated in the hall? Maybe not so great.

When I think of all we know about this religion and their changed teachings that they discard without a thought to the trouble they caused people - it really makes me sad those parents were so zealous. So, the unthinkable happened.

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2024 when will Witnesses admit they are wrong???

by Witness 007 in

1914 generation is long gone.

1975 was a joke 40 years ago.

i know of many witnesses still hanging on for armagedon but when will they give up?

LongHairGal

WITNESS007:

I don’t think they will ever admit they were wrong.

That might destroy the last vestige of hope that keeps many people hanging on there. Many know something is not right but they will stay for life. I saw on a Reddit post that somebody said Boomer Witnesses are very prideful.

I’m a Boomer myself who got a lot of grief from these people back in the day because I worked.. I am happily long out of the religion.. But, these ‘heavies’ aren’t going anywhere and, in fact, are probably propping the religion up. When they’re gone, that’s it.

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FOND FAREWELL TO THE BI-MONTHLY AWAKE!

by steve2 in

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friends

with the jw congregations about to be informed that the ubiquitous awake!

magazine is to be issued just once a month from january 2006, now is an apt time for interested parties to share brief memories and/or impressions about the bi-monthly awake!

magazines, whether poignant, hard-hitting or humorous.

LongHairGal

VIENNE:

Yeah, the only people who believed that silliness didn’t have a college degree..I remember hearing this foolish statement along with “you will only remember less than five percent of what you learned anyway ” 🙄 among some Witnesses.

I wasn’t raised a JW and considered mindsets like this to be typical of generational ignorance of people segregated from the world in general.

Anybody with regular contact with the community or non-JW relatives couldn’t help but hear at some point of somebody taking college classes and long hours of study over a long period of time, etc. …No intelligent person would equate somebody reading very simple periodical magazines to people involved in an intensive and expensive course of study over several years!

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The Saddest Thing About Tony Morris's Removal

by NotFormer in

i've mentioned before how i've wondered how tony morris must have felt when he was sacked.

yes, i know he's a rehensible human being who got served a healthy dose of karma, or, if you like, divine judgement.

to go from having all there is to have within the world he lived in, to where he is now; that's a long fall.

LongHairGal

RIVERGANG:

Yes, there are many threads on this topic but we have only a few facts.

From what I can see: he was announced as no longer being a GB. It didn’t say whether he was removed or stepped down; many of his videos were subsequently removed by the religion; and he is also rumored to be living in a house owned by the religion.

I think what stands out to me are the videos being removed. Why did they do this? This would imply disgrace. It can’t be ‘good’.

The big question here that some have asked: IS he attending meetings anywhere? If it can be proven he is not, possibly he is inactive (at the very least) and can’t possibly be in ‘good standing’ OR he is very physically ill and cannot attend.

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Depression & Isolation

by TxNVSue2023 in

i've been recently reinstated & am very happy about it.

i do love righteous (love & justice) and i do hate wickedness ( selfishness & sin).

i do love jehovah and the bible truths & wisdom.

LongHairGal

JHINE:

So the original poster claims she cannot go to a counselor because it would make the JW religion look bad (and well it should).

This feeling is not unusual among Witnesses who (secretly) have issues related to bad treatment in the religion. When I was active in the JW religion I always got the impression that Witnesses were afraid to say or do anything that would make the religion look bad in the eyes of the world.. They felt they had to ‘cloak its sins’ as it were.

If Witnesses are honest with themselves they would have to admit they do a fair amount of lying to make the religion look better. I may have done so myself a few times in the early years.. But, it was mostly because deep down inside I felt just plain stupid and had to make everything look ‘good’.

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New immigrant in New York State?

by was a new boy in

“state agencies have found 4,000 vacant positions in an effort to put illegal immigrants into the state’s workforce, according to a memo by the new york department of civil service, which was approved earlier this month.'.

in the memo, new york officials identified three barriers preventing illegal immigrants from getting those state jobs.

to address these barriers, the civil service department said it would create positions in ‘transitional’ titles with requirements ‘more in line with the candidates’ qualifications.’ in other words, illegal immigrants would be hired into the same positions while, at least temporarily, having the usual qualifications such as english proficiency, proof of education, and previous employment waived for them.”.

LongHairGal

ANONY MOUS:

You are probably right and that is what is happening: the ultimate goal is they want to replace decently paid people with low wage immigrants who don’t dare complain about anything.

I guess we are going backwards to the days before unions and protection for the workers!