Posts by LongHairGal

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Are JW's brainwashed?

by snare&racket in

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i know as a jw i concluded several times that i was not brainwashed as i was not some unautonimous zombie and had not experienced anything akin to.... .

but in reality, brainwashing is a control of thought and ideas over a person and changing the way they think.

in normal life such sentences are not used, in fact they are highly discouraged... .

LongHairGal

ROAD TO NOWHERE:

Yes, the Witnesses certainly are brainwashed.

The tactics you mentioned of ridicule, ostracism and guilt were used on me back in the day in order to get me to quit my full-time job and take up the ‘approved’ housecleaning and pioneering! ..I even had an over-righteous old lady insult me.

However, I could never bring myself to do this foolish thing which would have harmed me in the long run.. The JWs want people to sacrifice and do things detrimental to themselves in order to appease the congregation..The hell with that. I am so grateful all these years later that I never listened to a word they said.

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WT HQ is never proactive, they are reactive to everything put out showing their blatant hypocrisy and abject stupidity

by WingCommander in

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a few on here (and of course many on the ex-jw reddit forum) have mentioned that wt hq just recently (like in the past couple months) put out a video warning against the praising of jw actors, taking photos with them, etc.

to not do it anymore.

it was narrated by geoffrey jackson.

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

I remember back in the days of Fred Franz. That’s when there was a ‘holy mystique’ about the governing body!

Even though I personally never thought these men were special in any way, other idiot Witnesses spoke about them like they were ‘saintly’. I let it all go in one ear and out the other.

I hear you about the ‘no apologies’ about discarded teachings. I also remember those types and anti-types and when the young die-hard JW pioneers were so proud of themselves that they could recite all this from memory. Me? I found it tedious! This was all back in the day when I worked and was that ‘low hour publisher’.🤣.. But, I’m so happy now I never paid any attention to their teachings.. It is also quite obvious that once that man ‘the Oracle’ departed, all the ideas disappeared.

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Pa. Has Charged 14 Jehovah's Witnesses With CSA Just Since Last Fall ! More Expected.

by Sea Breeze in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bhwk6pxprkg&ab_channel=thethornbushwasblazing%26yetdidn%27tburnup.

LongHairGal

SCULLY:

I am sorry for what you suffered and I cannot imagine how horrible to be a child and not be believed.

This environment enabling the molesting of children I believe is directly related to the Witnesses lack of boundaries with each other. There is ignorance and too much togetherness and trust. Some don’t think twice of leaving small children in the company of older people not their family. No good.

I was raised Catholic and didn’t come into the JWs until I was a young adult. I was taught as a small child that nobody was allowed to touch me (in certain places) and to have a healthy suspicion of strange adults. I remember once in grade school when my parents weren’t home and a neighbor (young man) knocked at our side door by accident. He had the wrong house. Well, my parents mentioned it to him casually. Who knows if they were trying to see his reaction(?). The point being, they didn’t want strangers around their minor child.

The people in the hall were strangers.. I never bought into that crap that they were ‘like family’.👎

Anyway, I realize molestation can happen within a family and a poor child is not guaranteed to be safe anywhere. This is depressing I know but JWs make it worse by not shielding their children from strangers by buying into this phony brotherhood, IMO.

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Mike Rinder has died

by iloowy.goowy in

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just hearing about this now.

mike rinder has died.. he was a lifelong scientologist who broke away from the organization and became one of its biggest detractors.. rest in peace, mike!

thanks for what you did to expose cults.. https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/legacyremembers/mike-rinder-obituary?pid=208313152.

LongHairGal

Yes, I remember seeing him on that one special.

I remember him describing his actual ‘escape’ from the religion and it made an impression on me and sounded frightening. May he Rest in Peace.

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Bible Lessons You Won't Learn From The GB

by Journeyman in

for those on this forum who still consider themselves christian or students of the bible, are there any bible principles you came across during your own study or research that were never brought out by the gb of the jws but that you found significant or profound?.

i don't mean doctrinal issues like the trinity, heaven & hell, etc, as these are issues christendom has been arguing over for centuries.

i mean simple, scriptural principles that the gb could've highlighted at any time, but for various reasons - some obvious, some less so - have chosen not to.. one that stood out to me is in 1 samuel chapters 2, 3 and 4.. young samuel has been dedicated to the temple and is being raised to serve god there.

LongHairGal

JOURNEYMAN:

That is nice of them to admit that some Witnesses might be treated “unjustly... by those inside the congregation”. Don’t we all know that now!

When I came in I was ignorant of this and I was led to believe these things were unheard of - and for the most part with the born-ins this was true. As time went on and more people came into the JWs in the ‘80s (when they experienced a lot of growth) you started to hear stories. Unfortunately, some unscrupulous types are/were attracted to the Witnesses because they think people there are pushovers or fools. Sadly, this was true in some cases. I picked up on all this and knew enough never to have any business dealings with anybody there.

As somebody not raised a JW and who worked, my senses were heightened unlike some born-ins taught to trust everybody!👎

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The Dangers of Independent Thinking

by daystar in

"the dangers of independent thinking".

reading mary's thread regarding the july 15th wt, i began to really consider what the wbts' problem is with "independent thinking".. what exactly is "independent thinking" and what about its opposite, "dependent thinking"?

i think the following excerpt from an article here does a good job of defining them.

LongHairGal

HOSER:

Without meaning to, that old elder made the Witness religion look bad when he said: “independent thinkers think their way out of the ‘truth’”.

If somebody is able to think their way out of any so-called ‘truth’, it must’ve been pretty flimsy to start with!

In my case, I didn’t really have to think too hard about anything. It was a gut punch feeling at a Sunday meeting when a WT article was being read and discussed. So, in the end unchristian treatment topped by a changed major teaching (1995) did it for me.

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The Dangers of Independent Thinking

by daystar in

"the dangers of independent thinking".

reading mary's thread regarding the july 15th wt, i began to really consider what the wbts' problem is with "independent thinking".. what exactly is "independent thinking" and what about its opposite, "dependent thinking"?

i think the following excerpt from an article here does a good job of defining them.

LongHairGal

HEREIAM60:

Good story. You mentioned that pioneer brother became ‘pushy and intrusive into your personal life’. He also suggested you ‘changing employment so as to be free for all meetings and field service’🤣.. And then gasping at the thought you wanted to be independent, was so absurd. This was all so similar to my story when I got involved with the Witnesses decades ago.

Looking at it all today as somebody long Out, I realize just how ridiculous the JWs suggestions were back then: so out of touch with reality.. Anybody looking for employment like that wouldn’t be able to get it much less keep a job! But, the Witnesses weren’t looking out for my welfare! I had to do that myself and so I just ignored anything they said pertaining to my employment, which was none of their business anyway!

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The abuse of JW org

by wozza in

awhile ago i said on here i would like to show how wrong the jehovahs witness organisation is , in that they will not accept the testimony of a victim of sexual crime where the victim has no other witnesses to the crime.

i faced this with helping my ex wife for about 15 years in exposing her father , an elder, to the jw org.

his raping of her over years and they believed him.. so therefore the perpetrator knowing of the organisations stance can easily deny and therefore be free to pretend to serve as an innocent jw still mixing with the congregation ,and also i have witnessed an accused perpetrator of child molestation witnessing at my next door neighbors house in field service with a child of another family even though the elders knew of the accusations against him.

LongHairGal

STEPHANE LALIBERTE:

You say you accept DNA evidence as a witness. But, what if a child was molested maybe more than once but there is No DNA evidence?.. Maybe they didn’t know any better to speak up quickly about it. Where does this leave this poor victim??

Nah, the Witness religion’s 2-Witness rule with regard to child molestation or rape is just a tactic to keep guilty perpetrators from being prosecuted and punished. That is what I think.

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News of fires out of control in California

by ballistic in

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hope everyone near to the region affected in california is ok. it's shocking to hear of the destruction.

these affected areas are some of the places i visited when i came on a tour of the us.

malibu, santa barbera, la, santa monica, hollywood and so on..

LongHairGal

SIMON:

You are right and the sad conclusion many angry people came to is that something is wrong with the leadership in the state.

Of course, some fools in denial will try to make it about DT - meanwhile Biden is still president.🙄

This was all an unfortunate ‘perfect storm’ of bad choices. What I wonder is because so many wealthy famous people lost their homes maybe they will be more vocal in their outcries.

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The Dangers of Independent Thinking

by daystar in

"the dangers of independent thinking".

reading mary's thread regarding the july 15th wt, i began to really consider what the wbts' problem is with "independent thinking".. what exactly is "independent thinking" and what about its opposite, "dependent thinking"?

i think the following excerpt from an article here does a good job of defining them.

LongHairGal

TONUS OH:

In the beginning of my awakening after my disillusionment in the Jehovah’s Witnesses and learning the Truth about the Truth, I read mountains of information. I was particularly struck by that bit about how ‘unity was more important than accuracy’ and that any ‘change had to come from the top’ or words to that effect.

I was very angry when I learned this. These egotistical men were and are all about getting a following and keeping it. I realize so many people gave up so much and made this all-consuming false religion their whole life. Many were born into it. I am grateful I wasn’t and that it was just a wrong stop on my journey and a life lesson learned.. I’m Glad that I worked at a job in the so-called ‘world’ and that I am long Out of the JWs.