Posts by LongHairGal

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What is the current Watchtower "rent charge per publisher" for Kingdom Halls in the USA???

by Balaamsass2 in

i was following a few threads in reddit from current pimo jws complaining about local announcements regarding halls being short on their per publisher "rent payments".

third gen and i have been out pomo for a while...so how much is this charge now?

could this be part of the recent push to get people to "come back" or get re-instated...if it even is online and 15 minutes of service per month?

LongHairGal

RANDOMUSERNAME3500:

The guy you tell about is a typical grifter in the JWs and there were always a couple of them in the hall. The other ‘bad actor’ was usually a pioneer couple - always expecting money from people..Looking for freebies and wanting everybody else to pay for their ‘Everlasting Life’.

And they do tend to change halls after everybody has their ‘number’… If I had been there and anybody came up to me with their envelope asking for $$ for anybody there, my answer was NO… I got criticized, marked and gossiped about because I had a full-time job… Where did any of those hypocrites get off imagining they could then come up to me to ask for charity???

This is part of the reason they hated me and I couldn’t have cared less..Nowadays, You would be asked for $$ left and right.👎 Glad to be Out.

UGOTTOBEKIDDINGME1:

I would have loved to see you tell off those JWs when they criticized your uniform! ..As a group they are appallingly ignorant and do not realize that they would have no freedoms at all if somebody else did not fight for them!!!

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

LongHairGal

FINISHED MYSTERY:

Your quote about the elder who said: “I would rather be wrong and in the organization than be right and all alone” is a sad commentary on what probably is the mindset of the majority of the people still left in the JW religion!

Quite simply, they don’t care if it’s right or wrong. They don’t care who got damaged or hurt. They don’t care about faulty teachings and failed prophecies.. Some of the older ones condemned me for working full-time and not ‘pioneering’ years ago.. Meanwhile they were married women with a man supporting them in a comfortable style OR they were men who earned a good living…Such hypocrisy.

I am so Glad I walked away from all this ages ago.

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What the new JW light position really is 👍

by ElderBerry in

i’m still an elder and i consider myself jw light.

as my fellow elders are.

we don’t throw our weight around like elders used to in the past, it’s all very easy going these days.

LongHairGal

CARLA:

You are totally right and I agree with everything you posted about the JW religion 100%.

You, being married to a Witness, have seen it all. It is hard to think about the number of people in this religion who stay in spite of how toxic and damaging it is. An elder is even more reprehensible than a regular rank & file Witness because he sees behind the curtain and knows everything.. And, as for the excuse that they stay ‘because they want to make things better’ etc. it’s nonsense.. They really just don’t want to give up whatever MATERIAL benefits they have (social and business contacts, etc.)

I am a ‘Fader’ who, fortunately, had no family there and I never caved in to the immense pressure and criticism (from elders and other hypocrites) to quit my job all those years ago!

Then, when the religion changed the teaching about counting hours at their 2023 annual meeting - I just could not believe how right I was!!!.. I was ‘judged’ on this as a ‘low hour publisher’🙄 and Thank God I never listened!

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What is the current Watchtower "rent charge per publisher" for Kingdom Halls in the USA???

by Balaamsass2 in

i was following a few threads in reddit from current pimo jws complaining about local announcements regarding halls being short on their per publisher "rent payments".

third gen and i have been out pomo for a while...so how much is this charge now?

could this be part of the recent push to get people to "come back" or get re-instated...if it even is online and 15 minutes of service per month?

LongHairGal

JHINE:

You have a PM.

KENMAYO1:

Even though this may not sound like a lot of money to some people, those who got criticized for having a career might resent even this.. And this doesn’t include all the other expenses a person might have in the JW religion like gas prices and wear and tear on their vehicles going out in the ministry, lunches and maintaining a decent wardrobe (before the days of pants for women and a more casual look for men). Never mind all the other miscellaneous appeals for $$.

I have heard things have changed and there isn’t much door to door now, but people have many more expenses living in the world today!

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What is the current Watchtower "rent charge per publisher" for Kingdom Halls in the USA???

by Balaamsass2 in

i was following a few threads in reddit from current pimo jws complaining about local announcements regarding halls being short on their per publisher "rent payments".

third gen and i have been out pomo for a while...so how much is this charge now?

could this be part of the recent push to get people to "come back" or get re-instated...if it even is online and 15 minutes of service per month?

LongHairGal

BALAAMSASS2:

That’s a good point and I hadn’t thought about that one.

They certainty would want people back to give $$. They need brothers to be elders and hold microphones. But, they also want people (women) to do favors for people there.

In the old prosperous days when I was there they tried to enlist ALL the young women to do favors for affluent older people and other Users there.. I was viewed so negatively because of my job that I made sure I said NO.. But, there were plenty of other brown noses and pioneers who said yes.. Good for them and they probably got invited to those ‘special dinners’.

The demographics are different in the JW religion today. They have had serious population loss and this is really their fault as they literally pushed people out, in my opinion..(I walked out).. Most of those affluent older people I remembered have passed away.. The die-hard Boomers are seniors now and are probably the ones looking for assistance of all kinds now!

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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

LongHairGal

WING COMMANDER:

I totally agree that people have the right to question and criticize religious leaders - especially if anything about them deviates from the high moral biblical standard that they purport to have.

We can’t forget that many people on the forum may be active Witnesses (maybe even a few exes).. who have these religious leaders on a pedestal. There’s that holy mystique they confer upon them… I, myself, never believed this nonsense about anybody there - even when I was in the religion.

That’s why you sometimes see downvotes when somebody posts something hard-hitting that seems ‘irreverent’ to these sacred cows. Some posters don’t like it.. Too bad.. That wouldn’t stop me from speaking my mind.

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New GB member Judy Jedele critizing Job's "humility" while wearing $20,000 Rolex, gold cuff links, coloured suit. Incredible!

by WingCommander in

jw
friends

i swear, you can't make this shit up!

for years and years growing up in this cult, i had to constantly hear from my parents, from the stage, in the literature, about "keeping your eye simple", not being "materialistic", not "having a showy display of one's wealth.

" of course, this never seemed to apply to the wealthy business owning elduhzzzz who ran and lorded it out over the congregations, but i digress.

LongHairGal

FINISHED MYSTERIES:

Nah, I like my watches even though you can look at your phone for the correct time.

But, my watches are more down to earth price-wise. My most expensive one is just over two grand purchased two decades ago. I believe that it is in poor taste for religious leaders in any religion to flaunt riches in the faces of the public.

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3 Elders in Brazil sentenced for disfellowshipping announcement

by liam in

12 days ago 3 elders in brazil were sentenced for disfellowship announcement which is against the law in certain parts of brazil.

the first article discusses that.

the second article discusses the outcome so far.

LongHairGal

BALAAMSASS2 & FINISHED MYSTERY:

Good for you (BA2) to enlighten everybody as too many Witnesses are painfully ignorant about everything in the world around them.

At least a college educated person might have some idea if they are out of their depth. Not so an ignorant JW: they just go blundering on..

I thought of something even though it is not related: this Norway thing might confuse some uneducated JWs here and there as to what they ‘can get away with’ with regard to shunning and perhaps even going beyond what they should say in particular situations. It does make you wonder what actually happened in this instance(?)

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The Watchtower Wins, Disfellowshipping stays, Shunning stays.

by liam in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1jb6nv6/jw_vs_norway_march_2025_from_jan_frode_nilsen/.

the verdict is out.

after full understanding and decision by the state administrator, full confirmation in the appeal case by the ministry of children and family affairs, three victories in the injunction case, a full victory in the district court, we now faced a loss in the court of appeal.

LongHairGal

JOEY JOJO:

Yes, I believe what you say about the org ‘moving on and leaving boomers scratching their heads’…I am Out many years so I have no contact.

I think anyone with functioning brain cells should not only be embarrassed to be a JW - but they should have been out the door by now.. I do realize some are ‘stuck’ because of family who will shun them.. It was easy for me to ‘Fade’ years ago because I was independent and had no family there and was not held ‘hostage’ by any connections.🤮 Thank God.

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The Watchtower Wins, Disfellowshipping stays, Shunning stays.

by liam in

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/1jb6nv6/jw_vs_norway_march_2025_from_jan_frode_nilsen/.

the verdict is out.

after full understanding and decision by the state administrator, full confirmation in the appeal case by the ministry of children and family affairs, three victories in the injunction case, a full victory in the district court, we now faced a loss in the court of appeal.

LongHairGal

LIAM:

Maybe they won here but who knows what will happen in the future(?)

One thing is certain: more of the public have been exposed to what the JWs are all about if they didn’t know already. I still think they are going down quickly. Doesn’t matter about new policies greeting people who are DFd/removed OR visits to long time Faders/ Inactive people to entice them back because they are looking for $$ and people to do favors.🤮

When the die-hards/Boomers are gone I think the JW religion is pretty much done and will deserve to join the list of defunct American religions.