Posts by blindersoff

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Elders school

by blindersoff in

anybody heard anything about the content of the current elder school?

the elders here went.

first one i have miissed for a long time.. i would just guess that it is built around the new organization book.. b

Comments You Will Not Hear at the 11-6-05 WT Study (Judgment)

by blondie in

keep on the watch!

this warning: "keep on the watch, therefore, because you do not know on what day.

true christians--only jws.

blindersoff

Hi Blondie,

Always enjoy your input. I am amazed at your ability to pull info out of the hat on short notice. Wondering how you get your magazines.

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Blatantly deceitful use of secular sources

by AuldSoul in

i am looking good repository of instances where the watchtower or awake!

have quoted secular sources in such a way to make it appear the source supports their argument when it is blatantly obvious that the secular source disagreed with them.

if it doesn't exist, i am about to make one.

Has anyone been able to print the info from the Imp Bible Dic at the referenced link above. I can get it to print all of that section in the Dic EXCEPT the very quote in question. I would really like to have this quote on file directly from the Dic. This is so blatant that surely even some JW's could see through it.

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This concerns an ' 03 Topic about ex-elders and should they apologize

by juni in

jw
friends

a poster on this site was kind to direct me to an ' 03 topic for discussion that dealt with the question whether ex-elders who were on a jc should feel responsible for the hurt and damage to families that suffered df in their family and therefore seek these ones out and apologize.. some felt that these elders were only following what they felt was expected of them and others felt it was a good idea.. how do posters here who were former elders on jc feel about this now?

thank you to all for your input.

juni.

blindersoff

I have served on several to many JC's. I can say that we were guided more by what the GB said than what the Bible said. At the elders schools they always harped on looking up the WTS instructions on how to handle things as many elders were not following such.There was not much room for common sense. Mainly---what are the rules. That is why the secret elders manual is necessary The emphasis was on 'keeping the cong clean' more than helping the person. So, yes I feel badly for some of the decisions I shared in. I think some were made too hastily However, time that has passed & distance make it impractical to go back & reopen anything with these ones. The best I can hope for is that I may have helped someone not want to come back. At least I can say that I was never rude or unkind to the victim. I never , ever , liked the judicial aspect of being an elder. I never felt comfortable trying to run peoples lives. The groveling reinstatement process really irritates me.

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they just called on me

by pc in

an older woman and a younger woman with a baby in a stoller knocked on my door.

my house is so decorated with spider webs,pumpkins,skulls,gravestones, etc.

when i opened the door the crawling hand and candy dishes started thier seperate sounds and music, i just started to laugh.. she didn't introduce herself as one of jehovah's witnesses, she said she was doing volunteer work.

blindersoff

Undercover-----

That was funny.

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Noah the preacher

by TheListener in

this whole noah was a preacher of the last days things has me really irked.

i just don't see noah as a preacher, in the sense the society is using it, supported by the bible.. here are my thoughts, yes, they're not scholarly, but they represent how i feel.

feel free to comment in agreement or disagreement or possible sharing some more scholarly information.. genesis 6: 13, 18 and 7:1 clearly show that jehovah had already chosen noah and his family.

blindersoff

the Lord has granted a place of repentance to all who would be converted to Him. Noah preached repentance, and as many as listened to him were saved

As was pointred out already, Jehovah had already chosen Noah & his family to be saved. It had nothing to do with their listening to them.

I checked several translations & they all agree with the Interlinear & y'alls comments about them not knowing rather than ignoring Noah.

It is amazing how little of what we were taught actually has the backing of the Bible.

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A couple of questions for those who have been reinstated

by Lady Lee in

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i have a couple of questions for anyone who has been reinstated.. what kinds of questions did they ask you?.

if they decided to reinstate you were you told not to discuss why you were dfed, especially if another jw was involved?

blindersoff

Remember that according to the WTS, the sins they consider DFing ones are capital offenses, punishable by death under the Law.

+ Smoking (We are the F&D ~~Master~~ Slave, so we can add it if we want to)

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Bible reading without the WT filter

by watch the tower in

you know even though i think the wt doctrine is mostly all garbage now, i still do believe that the bible is inspired from our creator.

the flaw in my understanding of it in the past was because i was interpreting it through the filter of the wts.

recently i have started clean slate and read the bible without the wt filter (easier said than done, your mind has a way of reverting back to what was programmed in there).

blindersoff

It is hard to believe the difference.

I could make a whole list of things that seemed so clear when I was able to read them in context with an open mind.

2 examples

1----------The F & D Slave is an illustration that does NOT require a fulfillment and is speaking of Jesus judgement at his 2nd coming. No application to 1919ish. That took away their 'stick' as far as I'm concerned.

2----------Jesus did NOT say that the wars, famines, etc were a sign of his presence. The exact opposite is true. They were going to happen , but they were NOT to be used to indicate when he would return.

I was amazed ,as I continued my research, to find that others have written in books and posts on this board these very things that I was able to discover on my own by simply being willing to challange what I was taught for 45 years.

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Elders school

by blindersoff in

anybody heard anything about the content of the current elder school?

the elders here went.

first one i have miissed for a long time.. i would just guess that it is built around the new organization book.. b

blindersoff

Anybody heard anything about the content of the current elder school? The elders here went. First one I have miissed for a long time.

I would just guess that it is built around the new Organization book.

B

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A couple of questions for those who have been reinstated

by Lady Lee in

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i have a couple of questions for anyone who has been reinstated.. what kinds of questions did they ask you?.

if they decided to reinstate you were you told not to discuss why you were dfed, especially if another jw was involved?

blindersoff

My wife was told by the p.o. (not post office) that they will be asking her views about the organization & the F&D slave even though it has nothing to do with her DF.

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