You naughty elders --holding on to your notes. I guess that is why we were instructed to put them in the sealed envelope in the cong file. Look at the grief you would have been spared if you had just obeyed.
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Old committee notes.
by Gregor inas an elder in the late '70's i served more than my share of time on judicial committees.
the jc was made up of three elders: the presiding overseer, wt study overseer and bible study overseer.
since these positions rotated yearly, the average elder would serve three years straight on the jc.
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why do elders always pass on your private info?
by hamsterbait injust read in another thread how a youngster moved many many miles from his old congo, where he had 'fessed to "self-abuse" (how many of the gb were in the early boy-scouts, i ask?
anyway, the new book study conductor took him to one side after the meeting and asked how successful was he in dealing with his "problem".
this is what gets me so much about letting hlc see your records - they have no sense of tactful kindness or privacy.
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I plan on getting my report before i switch congregations, i just want to see what kind of info they have on me in there, and perhaps if i can do a little bit of doctoring myself :-d.
Sorry, it doesn't work that way. When they MAIL your pub card (which is cong property) to the new cong, they send any pertinent comments. You might ask them before you leave if there is anything they feel the need to report about you. We had an elder move in one time with a letter that the previous cong would not recommend him, yet they had never talked to him about it.
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why do elders always pass on your private info?
by hamsterbait injust read in another thread how a youngster moved many many miles from his old congo, where he had 'fessed to "self-abuse" (how many of the gb were in the early boy-scouts, i ask?
anyway, the new book study conductor took him to one side after the meeting and asked how successful was he in dealing with his "problem".
this is what gets me so much about letting hlc see your records - they have no sense of tactful kindness or privacy.
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Even though at elders schools, co visits, etc there is at least lip service given to confidentiallity, when an elder leaves, what happens to your confidential info?
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"Witlesses", "JDumbs", other labels.. How do you feel about them?
by AlmostAtheist ini've commented before that the watchtower goes out of its way to label groups of people it doesn't want you to like -- "worldly people", "apostates", "christendom".
there are scores of these labels.. people in general use them too: "spick", "n*gger", "trailer trash".
once we allow ourselves to refer to people by a label, we automatically change them from an individual to a member of a group.
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I will confine my comment to the use of these terms on this board.
I can see how a JW could wind up here accidently. My own mother did a search & wound up at an 'apostate' site.
If I had done that and saw terms like the above, I would never have given it a second look. It does nothing to attract truthseekers. It only serves to give vent to our own feelings. I attended a Sunday talk recently where the speaker spent the whole time deriding other churches. If I were one of the public , I would have walked out. Almost did anyway. (A side note) I think the same thing applies to the choice of what is generally considered (if there is such a thing) foul launguage.
Having said that, I realize that the purpose of this board is not solely to help JW's escape but I do see a lot of comments geared that way.
So I think it depends on the motive of the user. Is it to vent, or to convince someone with appealing reasoning, etc.
No need to flame me. I am not trying to tell anyone here what they should or should not say.
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Campaign - with credit to Schne_Belly
by MidwichCuckoo ini did post this on schne-belly's thread - but thought more may read it as a new topic.
apologies if idea has already been posted.. i think a good campaign would be for us to compose a 'standard' letter (maybe bullet points regarding certain issues, ngo - which the average jw is unaware of - child abuse, hypocricy of mexico / malawi stuff etc.
with quotes from watchtowers if need be, as they seem to carry more weight than the bible does) and each of us to print off several copies and send to selected members of the local congregation - the ones we know / remember as the intelligent thinkers.
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I like the idea. If a fader is concerned that suspicion might come their way, could someone else send them from a postmark far away after being supplied names & addresses? Preferably from a large city.
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Circuit Overseer Visit
by RichieRich in.
this week, my congregation has the privilege of the visit from the circuit overseer.. my mother took a day off work to go out.
i put in for extra hours.. in the off chance we get wrapped up in discussion, what should i say?.
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Would you be willing present the receipts that justify the $300.00 + in expenses that you claim to the congregation for a week? Because it seems too much given the fact that all your expenses are covered by the WT and your meals are provided by the congregation."
He presents those receipts to the elders upon their request. One time I forgot to ask & there was no bill.
Another time the co said because we were so small a cong , he was not going to submit expenses.
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im hurt, desperate, confused and considering this religion - advice?
by very_confused inlike the subject title says, i'm hurt, desperate and confused and don't know what to do anymore.
i'm so desperate to have something to live for that i'm considering converting to something like the jehovah's witnesses.
i know this might seem a bit extreme but please hear me out.
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So sorry to hear what you are going through. You've gotten some good advice here.
Please get professional help, but
from 40 years experience, I can tell you that JW's will not help you feel Jesus' love. They have pretty much replaced him with 'the organization'. I attended the public talk yesterday and Jesus was not even mentioned.
You WILL feel better with proper help.
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As long as I've been around, I was still taken aback at the phrase in one of last night's meeting songs.
It contained "present truth".
I can't bring myself to even act like I am singing those things anymore.
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Lots going on in JW-world
by watch the tower inin the past month or so we've seen..... - the article that was published by baylor university (the big news).
- announcement of massive layoffs within the wts.
- the wts losing the worker's comp suit.
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Seek and ye shall find.
It's all over the board.
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1963 UN resolution anyone else noticed this?
by skyman ini found this intresting the sun god noted above, now notice the 1963 resolution not to join the un.
"that we will continue to look to him as the great sun from whom comes our enlightenment, guidance and healing.
we will glorify him and not join idolatrous men in looking to bright-shining ones of mankind as the source of mental and spiritual enlightenment and of worldly prosperity".
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In the year 1914 ...... According to the published information from the Holy Bible, the time then came for all the political nations to yield their sovereignty in the earth peaceably over to the heavenly kingdom of God's enthroned Son Jesus Christ.
9 Since the decisive year of 1914 the political system of human government has refused to vacate this throne and cease rendering service to the "ruler of this world."
I always wondered what this meant in practical terms. Did they really expect the representatives of each Government to come knocking on their door in Brooklyn & say 'we understand that you represent the new global king, JC, so here is our resignation so you can rule the world without interference from us'?How insane!
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