Remember that according to the WTS, the sins they consider DFing ones are capital offenses, punishable by death under the Law.
+ Smoking (We are the F&D Master Slave, so we can add it if we want to)
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i have a couple of questions for anyone who has been reinstated.. what kinds of questions did they ask you?.
if they decided to reinstate you were you told not to discuss why you were dfed, especially if another jw was involved?
Remember that according to the WTS, the sins they consider DFing ones are capital offenses, punishable by death under the Law.
+ Smoking (We are the F&D Master Slave, so we can add it if we want to)
you know even though i think the wt doctrine is mostly all garbage now, i still do believe that the bible is inspired from our creator.
the flaw in my understanding of it in the past was because i was interpreting it through the filter of the wts.
recently i have started clean slate and read the bible without the wt filter (easier said than done, your mind has a way of reverting back to what was programmed in there).
It is hard to believe the difference.
I could make a whole list of things that seemed so clear when I was able to read them in context with an open mind.
2 examples
1----------The F & D Slave is an illustration that does NOT require a fulfillment and is speaking of Jesus judgement at his 2nd coming. No application to 1919ish. That took away their 'stick' as far as I'm concerned.
2----------Jesus did NOT say that the wars, famines, etc were a sign of his presence. The exact opposite is true. They were going to happen , but they were NOT to be used to indicate when he would return.
I was amazed ,as I continued my research, to find that others have written in books and posts on this board these very things that I was able to discover on my own by simply being willing to challange what I was taught for 45 years.
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anybody heard anything about the content of the current elder school?
the elders here went.
first one i have miissed for a long time.. i would just guess that it is built around the new organization book.. b
Anybody heard anything about the content of the current elder school? The elders here went. First one I have miissed for a long time.
I would just guess that it is built around the new Organization book.
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i have a couple of questions for anyone who has been reinstated.. what kinds of questions did they ask you?.
if they decided to reinstate you were you told not to discuss why you were dfed, especially if another jw was involved?
My wife was told by the p.o. (not post office) that they will be asking her views about the organization & the F&D slave even though it has nothing to do with her DF.
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which of ray's books would you recommend someone read first.
coc does a great job of explaining ray's situation and the results.
while covering some major doctrines along the way.
CoC 1st
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when russell started the wts and began promoting his epistimology the teachings were not what they were today.
most noteable was that christ was present in 1874. thus he believed he and others were chosen by christ to be of the elect remnant who would serve as part of the 144,000 the witnesses recognize today.. the problem occurs when the wts, or judge rutherford, changed 1874 to 1914. .
now christ did not perform any "inspection" until 1919.. he did not chose any fds until 1919.. well, russell was dead in 1919.. therefore prior to 1919 russell was just as any other christian group was.
Keep in mind the WTS says the slave was appointed in 33 ce . Russell sort of filled the bill in his time & then in 1919 those who claimed to be his followers were given the added responsibility of ALL the masters belongings.
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is this for real?
if so, it could be world-changing .... http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money-savers/article.html?in_article_id=403819&in_page_id=5.
There was a real cool movie 'The Water Engine'. The inventor was made an offer he couldn't refuse by the oil guys.
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i learned the truth about the truth after i was df.
now, i want to get reinstated for family reasons.
i still want to walk the tightrope to the point of going in service,but cannot promote the teachings of wts as i did for 40 yrs.
Thanks for the replies. Especially those who have 'been there--done that.' These folks can see that the issue is not 'to go or not to go'.
I'm still hoping to hear from more of the 'here is what I do' class. If I just wanted to spread the same old thing I used to, there would be no need for this thread.
ps-----this is not about the annointed or the GB
i learned the truth about the truth after i was df.
now, i want to get reinstated for family reasons.
i still want to walk the tightrope to the point of going in service,but cannot promote the teachings of wts as i did for 40 yrs.
I don't get it. You want to go back for "family reasons" & spread their BS from door to door, even though you say you've learned 'the truth about the truth'? How can you do that?
That is the problem Danny ol' boy.
I don't want to spread their BS, but there must be something truthful to present.
i learned the truth about the truth after i was df.
now, i want to get reinstated for family reasons.
i still want to walk the tightrope to the point of going in service,but cannot promote the teachings of wts as i did for 40 yrs.
I learned the truth about the truth after I was DF. Now, I want to get reinstated for family reasons. I still want to walk the tightrope to the point of going in service,but cannot promote the teachings of WTS as I did for 40 yrs.
I gather that some here still go in field service. What do you present or talk about at the door?
Thanks for your input.
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