Ténébreux

Joined

• started 3 topics
• posted 279 times   see topics posted on
• send a message

Posts by Ténébreux

• 
  16

  Watchtower will NOT accept legal responsibility

  by VM44 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i posted this in another thread, but this comment from the watchtower deserves a thread of its own.

  here is what the watchotwer wrote back in 1952 concerning legal liability and vaccinations.

  i am sure they feel the same today, the watchtower will not assume legal liability for any misrepresentation it has made concerning blood transfusions.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  Note that they didn't say they couldn't be drawn into it legally or be held responsible, only that they can't afford it.
• 
  1093

  THE NEWS IS BIGGER THAN DATELINE, BBC, CBC, ETC.

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  if i told you that something bigger is on the horizon than dateline, bbc, cbc, sunday (australia), and all other tv programs which exposed the sexual child abuse cover-up by watchtower in 2002-2003, would you believe me?

  have i ever misled you?

  i'll answer that--no!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  This better not be like that trick they play at the assemblies where they hint for three days that there will be an important announcement of earth-shattering significance at the end, and then it turns out they're just releasing a new pamphlet.
• 
  22

  Finish the sentence, "I'm not greedy, I'm....

  by jgnat in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  it seems the wtbts is gearing up to blame nearly every failure by congregation members on greediness.

  materialism is greed.

  addiction to pornography is greed.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  As someone I know often says: "I'm not greedy, I just want a lot."
• 
  4

  WTBTS's Use of "Illustrations"

  by Tashawaa in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  remember "illustrations"... the wtbts uses them to drive-home their points.

  for example, i can't get the illustration of "good parents who allow their child to undergo a painful operation for its own good" (with picture of parents heartbroken, and crying, reaching child being wheeled into operating room).

  this was suppose to help us "understand" why god allows the suffering today - for our future wellbeing.. well, what if the parents had the power to heal the child without surgery.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  When explaining why they keep reversing their stance on various issues, they like to use the illustration of a sail boat "tacking" against the wind. The boat appears to be meandering left and right, but really it's being guided steadily forward.

  What "wind" is God supposed to be struggling against that prevents him from revealing the truth the first time round, so that he must resort to this strategy?
• 
  15

  KM August Figures Are In (US)

  by Severus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  101.1, av.

  81.7, av.

  45.7, av.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  The door-banging routine has to be the most inefficient, idiotic, waste of time and money ever employed by a religion.

  You have to wonder why God hasn't yet switched to Plan B of having the stones cry out.
• 
  16

  beliefs I thought were unique to JWs because they had holy spirit

  by demeter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this forum rocks.

  i like it very much.. i want to talk about something that i have noticed since leaving the jws.. i thought the ideas about the millenium, armeggedon, invisibility of christ's presence, etc were inspired as truths given only to the anointed to pass on to the faithful witnesses.

  the parousia idea was an idea borrowed from a preacher named miller when one of his apocalyptic prophecies failed to come true.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  When I've pointed out to them that there are other organizations who also follow almost any given JW teaching, I've found that the response is usually something like "Yes... but we're the only ones who do ALL of those things. Show me any other organization that preaches door-to-door AND doesn't go to war AND doesn't celebrate worldly holidays AND doesn't accept blood AND..." and so on.

  And meanwhile, somewhere out there, there is another religious group saying "Yes, but show us anyone else who doesn't go to war AND doesn't celebrate Christmas AND denies the Trinity AND preaches door-to-door AND abstains from playing the banjo on Thursdays..."
• 
  24

  WHAT ARE SOME TITLES YOU COULD SEE IN THE WT?

  by stillAwitness in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  titles you could see in a wt/awake magazine:

  1. candy-can it detract us from true worship?

  2. rape victims-you are now allowed to scream again!

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  "Questions Apostates Ask - Strawmen That Work."
• 
  20

  Embarrased that you were a JW?

  by Lady Lee in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have finally started to read captive hearts, captive minds.. they say something that got me to thinking.. i used to feel embarassed to tell non-jws that i was a jw.

  it was one thing to tell people at the doors.

  it was totally another thing to tell other people.

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  I was a bit afraid to tell friends at school that I was a JW, in much the same way that Clark Kent was reluctant to reveal his true identity. JWs are special, we're better than everyone else, and everyone else knows it. If I tell anyone, they'll think I'm bragging. They're not ready for this, they'll feel unworthy to be in the presence of one of God's chosen people...
• 
  5

  Mene mene tekel parsin

  by SixofNine in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  .

  .

  http://www.guardian.co.uk/cartoons/stevebell/0,7371,1563596,00.html

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  I always used to wonder what kind of oddball language would have a single word for "Your kingdom is divided and given to the Medes and Persians". So many people must have been going around on a daily basis telling each other that their kingdoms had been divided and given to the Medes and Persians that someone said "You know, we really need a special word for this..."

  (Yeah I know, the words just mean "counted, weighed, divided" in Aramaic.)
• 
  26

  There must be an "organization"

  by sinis in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have not, nor will go back to "meetings" after finding out how i was spiritually mislead through the years.i have actually found more comfort in doing my own studying.

  my wife still goes occassionaly and her sister and brother-in-law just started going back.

  so we went over there house the other night and we got into a conversation in which he said they went to the meeting today (sunday).

  1. 
  2. 
  3. 
• 

  Ténébreux

  38 John said to him: “Teacher, we saw a certain man expelling demons by the use of your name and we tried to prevent him, because he was not accompanying us.” 39 But Jesus said: “Do not try to prevent him, for there is no one that will do a powerful work on the basis of my name that will quickly be able to revile me; 40 for he that is not against us is for us."

  I especially like the next part where he tells them that if anyone stumbles one of these little ones (referring to the man they had just been talking about) it would be better if he were thrown into the sea with a millstone around his neck. They love to quote that bit to show how bad "stumbling" is. And what do they mean by stumbling? Causing someone to turn away from the organization, that's what. So they manage to take a quote that's specifically talking about how unimportant it is to be with a particular group, and use it to explain the disastrous consequences of not being with the organization. Just brilliant.