Sorrry Tetra, but I prefer the blue pill...
ROFLMFAO!!!
tetra
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on this board that subscribe to such.
the questions stated are not for some.
Sorrry Tetra, but I prefer the blue pill...
ROFLMFAO!!!
tetra
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/tm_headline=cannibal-munched-pensioner-s-thumb--&method=full&objectid=18860588&siteid=89520-name_page.html
all he ate was the thumb? man, what a let down.
hannibal would have been disapointed with this guy. in his one and only attack, he goes for some guy's thumb, while only merely "gnawing" at other body parts. sounds like a complete muck-up from sociopathic/psychopathic standards. i mean, if you are going to do something that will end you up in a straitjacket & padded room for the rest of your life, then do it right and have a feast man, lol.
tetra
http://youtube.com/watch?v=f1pu4mks7ou.
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it's about time!
LOL! finally!
- to the Magic Man!
tetra
reading so many posts on atheism which is the belief that there is no god, and reading comments from creationists made me ponder if there was an alternate reason for our existence.. if god is up there, why does he permit suffering?
if i were god, i wouldn't of let it happen in the first place, these are my children, why would i let them suffer?
maybe i am influenced by my creationist upbringing and beliefs while a jw, because i find it hard to wrap my brain around the idea that everything came from nothing.
hey man, it wasn't childlike at all. these are major sort of things you are pondering my friend!
and it's like terry said in another thread. if you take "god" completely out of the equation, how would you describe our universe being any different than the way it already is? - it's impossible to say for sure, right? a good question for deists and theists to ponder methinks. at what point does using the label "god", and believing that the label represents something tangible or outside of the cosmos, become an exercise born of tradition? or born of an intense desire to *know* that we are here with meaning (as opposed to without meaning).
peace,
tetra
death to FSM!!
Sub genii REPRESENT!!
tetra
ps: he's obviously a fact or we wouldn't be spending our time talking about him, right? right. ;)
now most creationists use the argument that life just had to be created because it is so complex.
after all, the chance of it just happening is so remote that it negates any chance of just happening.
using that logic however, the lottery is impossible.
wanderer,
The individuals that you speak about were also responsible
for the construction of the pyramids of Egypt.
can you provide us with sources showing that the jews built the pyramids? i figure this should be easy for you since you are at such ease on university websites. perhaps the source has a 1-800 number too?
In addition, other individuals during that time period built
the aqueducts and palaces of Rome.
indeed! just because people can build things doesn't mean that they are incapable of being ignorant.
"gee, look, i can build a house so god musta built the universe!" - not exactly logical. if you want to scale it down even more, in case i lost you there, let's try: "gee, look, bronze age humans built cool buildings, so they musta been just as bright as we are now!"
tetra
tetra
reading so many posts on atheism which is the belief that there is no god, and reading comments from creationists made me ponder if there was an alternate reason for our existence.. if god is up there, why does he permit suffering?
if i were god, i wouldn't of let it happen in the first place, these are my children, why would i let them suffer?
maybe i am influenced by my creationist upbringing and beliefs while a jw, because i find it hard to wrap my brain around the idea that everything came from nothing.
hi FMW! nice thoughts.
There was a very powerful intelligent being, and it was the source of all the power, all the elements, every micron and atom in our universe. Billions and billions of year ago, this creator explodes, giving all of it's power to space, creating the building blocks of life, creating time...life which took eons to develope...and here we are now, and that is why ''god'' isn't in the picture, That is why there is no answer to our prayers, no supreme being to show us IT EXISTS because It died the very day It created life...the greatest act of love..It's death was for our life...and that is why so many believe that god is within us all, within all the wonderful beautiful creation, in the stars we see at night, all the beauty and the ugliness that surrounds us...in a way, we are all made up of the fabric that was god...
at this point in your description i would venture an aditional question: what is the difference between the god you hypothetically describe here, and no god at all? so, if i were to apply a label to what you are talking about, it would sound like a form of pantheism or deism (since you had mentioned these are fairly new thoughts to you). but i like the pantheistic overtones. god is the universe because all came from him only because all is him. but at this point we should be careful not to anthropomorphisize the begining cause. calling it "him" is probably an easily made mistake for humans to make. but really, in this view, it doesn't mean that god had to die for all to live. it just means that god is in all of us because all of nature/cosmos is god. since we are part of that, we also are god.
i would also venture that in this view it would not have to be an act of love, but only an act of becoming, which doesn't have to be a conscious act either.
so, what i am trying to say, is just remember that taking "humanness" out of the equation is as important to critical thought as investing humanness into the cosmos is to spiritual thought. we have to balance between the two, imo. and labels mean different things to different people. i could read your post and switch the word "god" for "nature" as easily as i could switch "act of love" for " big bang". you know? not to say it wasn't a cool post! it was way cool! thanks!
tetra
ps: "simply came to be" doesn't represent what happened. it was anything but simple. but hey, we're still doing pretty good. at least we know it wasn't simple! :)
set your goals ... get your degree ... but don't waste it all being so damn serious.
enjoy your partner, and take pleasure in her as a person and in her body.
enjoy your partner, and take pleasure in her as a person and in her body.
LOL!!!
you just inspired me to pour another glass and roll another spliff!
tetra
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exists a common theme among the postings.
the themes surrounding the .
uh, dear wanderer,
Dear tetra:
So, I guess this becomes discredited then?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parapsychological_Association
http://parapsych.org/
This is the telphone number of the Penn State
paranormal society. 1-814-689-2133.
Respectfully,
The Wanderer
uh, if there is a vigorous methodology with variables that include the pineal gland and DMT, then no, i don't see how it would be discredited. i mean, for god's sake man, they can choose whatever label they want. if it passes peer review and the hypotheses are reproducable time and again, the tone of the label will change in the minds of people pondering the label. jeez. up to this point, it hasn't happened! i wish them much luck, truly!! tetra tetra
now most creationists use the argument that life just had to be created because it is so complex.
after all, the chance of it just happening is so remote that it negates any chance of just happening.
using that logic however, the lottery is impossible.
the chances of this universe being exactly the way it is:
1:1
tetra