Whats worse is that many of these ones that claim to reject the toothfairy, Santa, Leprechauns, etc,...will fight tooth and nail to preserve their own myth,..namely the existance of Gods.
"But But But,...the tooth fairy IS false...MY God is real!!"
SeymourButts
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Santa Clause, Easter Bunny and Tooth Fairy...
by changeling ini recall witnesses saying how evil wordly parents were by "lying" to their children about these characters.
how witness children were fortunate that their parents always told them the truth.. so, i wonder, have you ever met an adult who was messed up because of having found out that santa clause and friends were not real?
are therapist's couches everywhere filled with these poor souls?
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..Creative Insults..
by OUTLAW inevery once in awhile people will get choked with each other and name call..usually it`s not that creative..sh*thead..assh*le..ect..then there`s my favorites like hillary_step..that guy can insult an idiot and it`s unlikely the person will ever get it..lol!
!..that always cracks me up..lol!
!.....what i`m looking for is creative insults!
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SeymourButts
If brains were gasoline, you wouldn't have enough to drive a piss-ants motorcycle around the inside of a Cheerio!
If we put your brain on the edge of a razor-blade, it would look like a pea rolling down a 4-lane highway!
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Why do JWs take vacations....?
by SeymourButts inwhy do loyal jws take sight-seeing vacations?
if they will live forever on a paradise earth, why do they spend time seeing the wonders of the world and the beauty of it all while on a vacation from their secular employment?
they will have the rest of eternity to seek out the wonders of this world, will they not?
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SeymourButts
Why do loyal JWs take sight-seeing vacations? If they will live forever on a paradise earth, why do they spend time seeing the wonders of the world and the beauty of it all while on a vacation from their secular employment? They will have the rest of eternity to seek out the wonders of this world, will they not? Wouldn't this time be better spent in the service of their wonderful creator? Wouldn't daily ventures into field service be a more appropriate way to spend time off work considering they have "forever" to admire natures wonders? What about amusement parks? Ever seen a JW going on vacation to see man-made attractions? I have seen every elder and "Bethelite" I know take personal vacations. As a kid, on vacation with my elder dad, never once did we go to a "Kingdom Hall" while on vacation.....even when it was a 3 week excursion. Seems that they are forgoing the "meat" to satisfy personal desires.
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Without Any Observer Can The Universe Exist?
by frankiespeakin inwhat do you think?
it is kind of like the question: if a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it does it make a noise as it crashes to the ground?
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SeymourButts
Of course it would exist, whether one was there to see it or not. Just like the tree falling in the woods. Yes it makes a sound....What is a sound? A wave...whether one is there to detect that wave is irrelevant....the wave would exists regardless.
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Name a bar/pub
by purplesofa inneed a great name for a bar/pub a family member is opening........soon!!!!!.
can't believe he can't seem to come up with a name........ so help me .....help him out!!!!.
thanks in advance, .
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SeymourButts
the "Stumble Inn"
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Nintendo Wii
by jrjr4189 inhas anybody been lucky enough to get a wii.
i had one reserved at toys r us and picked up on launch day.
it is a lot of fun.
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SeymourButts
I wouldn't say that Sony has lost their mind. The new PS3 in the $600 version is also set-up for hd-dvd....have you ever priced an hd-dvd player? Yes, Sony is taking a gamble, but if Blue-ray takes off like they expect, and probably will....who will be on top...again?
Price an X-Box 360 or a Wii AND an HD-DVD player and see what it costs.
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Did Adam know the full consequences of his sin?
by truthseeker in"through one man sin entered the world, and death through sin, and thus death spread to all men because they had all sinned.
" romans 5:12. this verse has been used to prove that adam was responsible for sin and death.. from a christian standpoint, this is true.
did adam really know the full effects of eating the forbidden fruit?.
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SeymourButts
He did not have the foreknowledge that God did.
If "God" had the foreknowledge, then Adam had no choice but to "sin" and eat of the "fruit", otherwise gods "foreknowledge" would be wrong. That very statement implies that god knew "all" before man was even created and therefore "free will" is non-existant. If "god" had "foreknowledge" of the event, then it was indeed a mere excerise in self amusement.
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Watchtower Headquarters video inside/outside
by SeymourButts inthis was just added to youtube...a news station video of the wtbts in ny.
notice the high $$$$ furnishings.
there are several comments by current jws who find the video "upbuilding".
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figures....It is the first I had seen it. I guess I don't pay much attention to the society anymore.
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Watchtower Headquarters video inside/outside
by SeymourButts inthis was just added to youtube...a news station video of the wtbts in ny.
notice the high $$$$ furnishings.
there are several comments by current jws who find the video "upbuilding".
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SeymourButts
This was just added to youtube...a news station video of the WTBTS in NY. Notice the high $$$$ furnishings. There are several comments by current JWs who find the video "upbuilding". (gag!)
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Study: Prayer causes complications for heart patients
by SeymourButts instudy: praying won't affect heart patients
by malcolm ritter ap
new york (ap) - does praying for a sick person's recovery do any good?
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Study: Praying Won't Affect Heart Patients By MALCOLM RITTER ap NEW YORK (AP) - Does praying for a sick person's recovery do any good? In the largest scientific test of its kind, heart surgery patients showed no benefit when strangers prayed for their recovery.
And patients who knew they were being prayed for had a slightly higher rate of complications. The researchers could only guess why.
Several scientists questioned the concept of the study. Science "is not designed to study the supernatural," said Dr. Harold G. Koenig, director of the Center for Spirituality, Theology and Health at the Duke University Medical Center.
The researchers who tested the power of prayer emphasized that their $2.4 million study could not address whether God exists or answers prayers made on another's behalf. The study could look only for effects from the specific prayers offered as part of the research, they said.
The highly anticipated study "did not move us forward or backward" in understanding the effects of prayer, said Dr. Charles Bethea, a co-author and cardiologist at the Integris Baptist Medical Center in Oklahoma City. "Intercessory prayer under our restricted format had a neutral effect."
Dr. Herbert Benson of Harvard Medical School, co-principal investigator of the study, agreed. "We cannot come to a conclusion, except to say that by this study design, with its limitations, this is what we found."
The researchers also said they didn't know why patients who knew they were being prayed for had a higher rate of complications than patients who only knew that such prayers were a possibility.
Maybe they became anxious by the knowledge that they'd been selected for prayers, Bethea said: "Did the patients think, 'I am so sick that they had to call in the prayer team?"'
The researchers said family and friends shouldn't be discouraged from telling a patient about their plans to pray for a good recovery.
Experts called it the largest and best-designed study ever to test the medical effects of intercessory prayers - praying on behalf of someone else. That's different from studying the effect of a person's prayers and spiritual practices on his or her own health; many studies of that have shown a positive effect.
The new study followed about 1,800 patients at six medical centers. It was financed by the Templeton Foundation, which supports research into science and religion, and one of the participating hospitals. It will appear in Tuesday's issue of the American Heart Journal.
The research team tested the effect of having three Christian groups pray for particular patients, starting the night before surgery and continuing for two weeks. The volunteers prayed for "a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications" for specific patients - their identities known only by first name and first initial of the last name.
The patients, meanwhile, were split into three groups of about 600 apiece: those who knew they were being prayed for, those who were prayed for but only knew it was a possibility, and those who weren't prayed for but were told it was a possibility.
The researchers didn't ask patients or their families and friends to alter any plans they had for prayer, saying such a step would have been unethical and impractical.
The study looked for any complications within 30 days of the surgery. Results showed no effect of prayer on complication-free recovery. But among patients who did receive prayers, 59 percent of the patients who knew they were being prayed for developed a complication, versus 52 percent of those who were told it was just a possibility.
Paul Kurtz, professor emeritus of philosophy at the State University of New York at Buffalo, and chairman of the Committee for the Scientific Investigation of Claims of the Paranormal, had a blunt response when asked why he thought the study found no effect of prayer.
"Because there is none," he said. "That would be one answer."
He added that while he tries to keep an open mind, he's seen no good evidence for such an effect in past studies. The new work, he said, "gives added emphasis to those who have been skeptical."
Koenig, of Duke University Medical Center, who didn't take part in the study, said the results didn't surprise him.
"There are no scientific grounds to expect a result and there are no real theological grounds to expect a result either," he said. "There is no god in either the Christian, Jewish or Muslim scriptures that can be constrained to the point that they can be predicted."
Within the Christian tradition, God would be expected to be concerned with a person's eternal salvation, he said, and "why would God change his plans for a particular person just because they're in a research study?"
Dr. David Stevens, executive director of the Christian Medical and Dental Associations, said he believes intercessory prayer can influence medical outcomes, but that science is not equipped to explore it.
"Do we control God through prayer? Theologians would say absolutely not. God decides sometimes to intervene, and sometimes not," he said.
As for the new study, he said, "I don't think ... it's going to stop people praying for the sick."