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  JWs and breastfeeding past infancy

  by rebel8 in

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  my jw mother breastfed my sibs so long they remember it.

  one she stopped feeding when she went to kingergarten; i kid you not.

  my mother justified it by saying moses' mother breastfed him until whatever age and the bible encourages it.

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  In my congregation, the need to breastfeed modestly caused many to wean babes by 1 yr. old.
  Sometimes it is very hard to breastfeed in a discreet way. When you are just learning how, when you have a cranky baby or you are trying to nurse and eat at the same time.
  
  I have 3 children. I breastfed the first one till 22 months. He weaned himself.
  Then I had twins. There is no way to modestly nurse twins! One of my twins nursed until he was 6. I know you all think this is gross. But all three of my children were very attached to our nursing time and they all cried when the last child stopped. They are now 13, 9 and 9. All three boys are healthy, loving, and independent. The one who nursed until 6 does not remember.
  
  I found that when I was breastfeeding I viewed my breasts as nourishment for my children and I lost much of my modesty. Now I can' t imagine exposing a boob to the world.
  
  I think this country really has its priorities screwed up. We will watch, listen to and read all sorts of violent, sexual things but a woman breastfeeding pushes all sorts of buttons. IMO it brings up painful feelings of seperation and loss that are hard to deal with.
  
  The next time you see a woman nursing in public, smile and nod your encouragement. Don't make her hide herself and her little one away for your comfort.
  
  Evita
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  The saddest song you've ever heard

  by littlerockguy in

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  what is the saddest song that brings tears to your eyes just about every time you hear it?

  mine is harry chapin's cats in the cradle

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  Guantanamera - the Pete Seeger version with the audience singing. I always cry, it's just so beautiful.
  
  Kisses Sweeter Than Wine
  
  Beautiful Boy - John Lennon - This really gets to me as the mom of 3 boys.
  
  We shall Overcome - When I was a small child, my mom took me to a protest march (early 60's). Everyone was singing this song and it still is incredibly moving to me to hear it sung by a crowd.
  
  Circle Game - Joni Mitchell
  "Yesterday a child came out to wonder. Caught a dragonfly inside a jar..."
  
  Who Knows where the Time goes? - Judy Collins
  
  I''m gonna have to listen to these soon and have a good cry.
  
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  Speaking of music,,,,,what "nerdy" singer do you secretly adore?

  by LyinEyes in

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  i didnt know what other word to use but nerdy,, but you will get the picture when i tell you a couple of my favorites.

  or maybe they are not so much "nerdy" as they are just off the beaten path singers,,maybe even a bit odd.

  barry mannilow,.

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  OK you named some great "nerdy" music that I love. Tom Jones, The Carpenters etc.
  
  Here's a few more:
  
  Peter, Paul, and Mary - Don't think twice, its alright; Lemon Tree; Jet Plane
  Dan Fogelberg - I used to love this guy and played his stuff over and over
  America - didn't they do the original Muskrat Love? The album with Ventura Highway on it is the best!
  Diana Ross - I know, I know Embarassingly uncool.
  
  As long as nobody says Donny Osmond we're OK here...
  
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  What's the best movie of the year (so far?)

  by Preston in

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  i recently saw oldboy and millions.

  both movies will be high up there once the year ends.

  i had problems with both movies.

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  I was very impressed with Crash. The performances were amazing and it was very touching without being overly sentimental. It was honest about prejudice without getting too ugly.
  
  I saw Ballad of Jack and Rose and liked it very much. The ending was a little heavy-handed but Daniel Day Lewis was great and the teens in the movie were terrifically real.
  
  Took my kids to see Millions. It was fun but It wasn't as great as the reviews said. Still, a good story and certainly a better kids movie than most.
  
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  How many people here are Faders?

  by misspeaches in

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  how many people that come to this board are faders only?

  i am interested to know the statistics on how many people have left the borg because they have discovered their untruths or become disillusioned.. thanks,.

  miss peache

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  I faded over 20 years ago when I was about 22 or 23. I almost got DF a number of times but managed to
  avoid elder visits and JC. Also, moving to a nearby town helped. They just lost interest in me. I wish I could say this was the end of my relationship with the org. but my mom was still a very devoted dub and professed to be one of the anointed so I could never completely cut the cord and formally DA.
  
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  What was your most humiliating point of being a jw?

  by love11 in

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  mine was when my mom signed me up to sit at a table at our local university.

  we had to sit there and talk to students as they passed by our table.

  a few people came up to start a conversation and i didn't even know what they were talking about.

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  There are so many....
  
  Freshman year in H.S. I was just studying and decided to do my History paper on the travels of the Apostle Paul. Unfortunately, I only used the WT publications as reference material. I was humiliated when I got my paper back! I was just a naive kid and did not know how the world viewed the "scholarship" of the WTBTS.
  
  Doing street work in my very small town as my schoolmates drove by and waved. UGH!
  
  Being counseled by the elders for minor things.
  
  Sitting through a talk or study when the material applied to me. Humiliation + Shame
  
  Actually, many of my experiences were humiliating. I was a very self-conscious teen. The org was the worst place for me to build confidence. I had to do all that later.
  
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  How Do YOU Feel Knowing That YOU Were In A Cult?

  by minimus in

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  for years, i refused to think of the witnesses as a "cult".

  too harsh and restrictive of a word for me......but there is no denying that we were all in a mind controlling cult.

  are you embarrassed or uncomfortable knowing that you belonged to a cult just like the moonies and the branch davidians are/werw a cult?

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  Why did ya have to go and remind me?
  My evening is ruined.
  
  Seriously, it took me a long time to admit it was a cult. To me all religions are a bit crazy but most let
  you leave without so much abuse. What a waste of my youth, time, and emotional energy. I hope I
  learned something from the whole thing!
  
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  was your cong like out of a chapter of Peyton Place?

  by littlerockguy in

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  the first congregation i went to basically was warm and friendly even though i didn't develop very many close friends there but some of the others i went to were rather scandulous in more ways than one.

  one that i went to im surprised anybody is still there that has a conscious with all that went on.

  was yours like that?

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  OMG, yes.
  
  How did I know since I was not an elder or marrried to one?
  
  I was told by one of the elders who was a personal friend . And also got info from the
  congregation gossip ( a dear friend of my mother )
  
  Did I enjoy hearing about this stuff? You bet I did.
  
  I was such a perfect, judgemental dub. I thought I would never be morally challenged in any way.
  
  I am ashamed to admit this but laughing at the same time.
  
  Evi
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  microphones were the last straw

  by ivy in

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  it wasn't the big stuff that made me decide i could never go back, it was one little thing.

  i have been thinking about my journey out of "the truth", and i think i can pin-point the last straw.. .

  i had been out for years, but always thinking that if i got my head together someday i would be good enough to go back.

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  tyler m - wow! I admire your guts.
  
  One of my last straws:
  
  I was talking to the elder's wife who had studied with me. She mentioned that B (a slutty, non-active 18 yr. old) had just married T (a doltish , barely active 19 yr. old). Then she said, "Now that she's married, I have to start thinking of B as a ' woman'. I said "What do you mean? Don't you consider all women to be ' women'?
  Apparently, only women who are married are real women.
  
  At the time, I was 19, an aux pioneer who attended all meetings and was extremely pious. But I had no beau on the horizon. I thought to myself, "I"m Doomed".
  
  That was the beginning of the end for me.
  
  Evi
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  Last JW meeting

  by greendawn in

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  when you finally came to the jw meeting that you knew was your last one, what were your thoughts, feelings or actions?

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  my last was the summer convent of 1986. i stood there until everyone left and then i took a picture with my new camera of the empty stadium, the wish being that the wts would collapse and never fill up again stadiums with people.

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  La Capra
  
  Thanks for the correct date for the convention at Oakland. My memories of Jw times are slowly fading.
  I did go to my mom's memorial in Dec. 2004. It was like an alternate universe. I was so out of it, but some dubs came up to witness to me. One elder even placed some kind of a tract about death with me after the talk. So bizarre! as well as empty and depressing. My mom had an amazing life before becoming a dub and we couldn't share that with anyone.
  
  By the way, do we live near each other?
  I would PM you but am unable to for some unknown reason.
  
  Evi