I hated evening service. People were actually home - Yikes!
If I were you I would do anything to avoid this.
Posts by evita
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Just blagged my way out of the evening service...
by Sam the Man inwell an elder had the nerve to tell me that i 'wasnt doing enough' and that i should 'really start' by coming out on the evening service on monday night.
'yeah, ok mate'.
there is a lie to get out of anything!
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evita
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What silly rules did your congregation make up?
by weinermcgee inelders were famous for making up stupid rules with no bible base at all as an ego trip i guess, what were some of yours?
i am not talking about the stupid rules that we all had to follow, just the congregation specific silly ones.. 1. having to button your jacket while on stage (this was later changed due to all the elders having a beer gut).
2. suits only or no privledges.
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Marvin
Your stories made me LMAO. My elders were so prudish they would never even let the cong see a film with a breast-feeding mom much less let sisters nurse in public. All nursing sisters immediately to the bathroom or breastfeed under a huge poncho. So funny to see all the red-faced, sweaty babies after the meeting was over.
Another elder law was that the teens could not go out in service together. Oh, except if you were an elders kid you could gather a group of your friends and go out.
Definitely no R-rated movies.
Bad association rules. I happened to have lunch at school with an unbaptized JW who was engaged to an older wordly man. I got into huge trouble with an elders wife for this one. -
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So you used to be...
by onacruse inwhen i stubbed my toe last night and characterized a long-time poster here as still being an elder (for which i apologize), and then this morning, reflecting on the meaning of that, the question came to me:.
what does it matter?.
there have been so many "persons of authority"-- ministerial servants, elders, bethelites, even district overseers (as i've heard)-- who have posted, and continue to post, on this discussion board.
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evita
Min had an interesting thread not too long ago which I did not respond to but which really burned me up. If I remember correctly he mentioned being irritated by new or infrequent posters who had the nerve to express a strong opinion or give advice to the "elders" or more experienced ones on the board. It so reminded me of the condescending attitude many elders and their wives had toward the so-called "lowly" ones.
Everyone comes here with unique and varied experiences and abilities. Someone may be new to this forum but may be very knowledgeable about JW history and biblical references. Perhaps they never held a position in the org but may have some personal wisdom to share or even just an opinion.
I do love hearing from elders or other biggies who left the dubs but I'm also amazed at what others have to share.
By the way, I was just a lowly, young, unmarried sister. I left so that I could be somebody else.
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Colorado cong ...
by sammielee24 in...i have been df'd for over a year now and will never again be part of this cult...that being said, i was born and raised only in the 'truth' with no contact with 'wordly' people.
all of my family remain zealous members including my children who refuse any communication with me whatsoever...i have been learning how to live within the world over the past year instead of separate from it and things are going well in that regard.
i have just heard that one of my kids will be married in a couple of weeks to a member of the congregation in greely...i was not invited of course and only heard of it through the grapevine...needless to say i am extremely saddened by the seething hatred that i've been shown and total lack of respect and consideration.
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sammie
It sounds like you did the best parenting you could do while trapped in the org. Hopefully your children will recognize that you are still their one and only daddy. My mom shunned me for many years but we always missed and loved each other on some very primal level. I know how painful it can be but don't give up hope.
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Does the sadness ever leave?
by pc inhi everyone, haven't posted for awhile.. i am probably just rambling tonight( a few glasses of great red wine) so pardon me.
every once and awhile i just have such great sadness that begins to permiate my thoughts.not just for me but for everyone who has walked this path.
i happen to have a pretty great life, but sometimes this deep sadness rises up in me for all the things that might have been.
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pc
It's funny but I was thinking much the same way last night. I caught my kids cold and also PMS and I felt really down about the whole JW thing. I also have a very good life now and the past is the past. Yet it feels like a bad dream that I can't seem to shake.
The whole thing seems quite unbelievable. Was I really a die-hard cult member for 10 years? Did I really leave and make a whole new life out of nothing? Did my mother really shun me off and on for 20+ years and then die just as we were starting to bridge the gap? Yes, it did really happen and the only ones who understand are those on JWD.
In my very worst moments I feel ruined in some core place. In my best times I feel very strong and free.
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Do you hide you JW family's practice of shunning from non-JW family?
by kwintestal ini thought of this question as i've been talking to different family members about the situation with my parents and grandmother.
i wondered if they'd get upset by me telling other non-jw family members what was going on.
i recently told a family member in coventry who i'm sure will end up telling my grandmother's sisters.
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evita
I was always very honest with my dad, my in-laws and my friends regarding my mom shunning me off and on for 20 years. They mostly didn't really understand and just thought I didn't get along with my mom. When she died and they saw how devastated I was and what a loss the years of shunning had been, they finally got it.
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Who was your favorite "60's " folk singer?
by hubert ini go this idea from simons post on bob dylan's documentary.. my first choice would be..... joan baez.... she had the most beautiful voice, and with her excellent guitar picking, didn't need any backup music or singers.. next would be ...peter, paul and mary.
they could really harmonize magnificeintly.. what are your favorites?.
hubert.
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evita
Dylan, of course
Joan Baez - Farewell, Angelina album
Joni Mitchell - Circle Game, Chelsea Morning, Cactus Tree
Judy Collins - Who Knows Where the Time Goes, In my Life
Peter, Paul, and Mary - Don't Think Twice, Puff the Magic Dragon, Lemon Tree
Pete Seeger- Guantanamera, Kisses Sweeter than Wine
Donovan- all his folky stuff before the fairy stuff
Ritchie Havens- Follow the Drinking Gourd, Follow
Harry Belafonte - Day-O, Come Back Liza
Tim Hardin - Reason to Believe
Kingston Trio - Where have all the Flowers Gone
Jesse Colin Young and the Youngbloods - Sunlight, Get Together
Simon and Garfunkel - Early stuff like Scarborough Fair
I grew up listening to this stuff and some of it can move me to tears. -
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Technically, it's not a miracle. But it IS a miracle for me.
by bebu inthe neurosurgeon called it glioblastoma.
the radiologist affirmed it was glioblastoma.
--glioblastoma is the brain cancer tumor that they diagnosed for my mother last friday from her mri results.
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evita
So happy for you all...thanks for sharing your news.
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Two pictures of my mom...
by bebu inone was taken about one month ago, near a beach where our family was camping.
my parents boated over to see us, and it was a beautiful day.
i happened to take one of the best photos i've ever seen of my mom: relaxed and confident, smiling with eyes twinkling, enjoying the beautiful day.
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evita
Dear Bebu
I wish the best for you and your mom. I lost my mom in Dec. of last year and it has been very difficult. She died just 8 weeks after her diagnosis with cancer. I hope you and your mom have much more time left together. She is lucky to have such a loving daughter.
Hugs to you and your mom
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Sending Love and Positive Energy to Outnfree
by Robdar inplease join me tonight in a prayer vigil for outnfree.
since brenda's chemo is usually on thursdays, i would like to do this every thursday in order to send our energy, love and strength to this wonderful lady while she fights this awful disease.
please send your good thoughts, positive vibes and prayers tonight starting at 8:00 central (9:00 eastern, 7:00 mountain, 6:00 pacific) to brenda ryan (outnfree's real name) in the detroit, mi metro area.
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evita
Hugs to Brenda
Eva