just curious, how many of you have to hide the fact that you post here from family?
i'm especially thinking of those with spouses who are in, while they themselves either never were, faded, dfed/daed, etc but if you are a child hiding it from parents, that applies too.
if you are posting secretly, how secretive do you have to be?
My family and friends know that I frequent this site - I share your stories with them regularly. To my knowledge, only one ever joined, but her circumstances make it difficult for her to come on often.
My stats (age, gender, etc.) are absolutely real - but I don't use my real name. Originally, it was because I wasn't ready to share . . . now, it's just who I am here.
re: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/8/116108/1.ashx.
a bethel insider in the know told me that all of the child abuse lawsuits where the watchtower bible and tract society was one of the defendants were settled back in the beginning of this year.
i questioned it and called napa myself and they were absolutely settled back then.
BTTT again and again please
i had 'reached out' to be an elder for a decade before i finally understood the reasons why i was not, nor would i ever be one.. each visit of the co, my name was on the list of discussion.
i know this because i was told by both co's and local elders.
the vote was always close, sometimes i missed the cut due to 'low hours' on the part of my wife or daughter, othertimes due to some variation in the way the wts was looking at particular 'requirements'.
Jeff - I hold out very little hope that he will ever see the light. He is truly a contradiction to himself - a nonconformist who can only conform. I know that sounds impossible, but it's him.
what would you include?.
it occured to me that there are a lot of thinking, intelligent and good people that use this board..........our views may differ.........some may believe in a god, others definitely dont and some sit firmly on the fence.......but what if we removed god from the equation....... what if we as members of this board had to suggest and formalise a 'way of living' that would be beneficial to all of mankind; what would your ideas be?.
i know some people may be offended to use the term religion as this immediately denotes gods involvement.......so lets call it the 'experience'........
I think the basic Golden Rule should be at the center of any religion. Of course, that only works if you're not into anything harmful . . .
i had 'reached out' to be an elder for a decade before i finally understood the reasons why i was not, nor would i ever be one.. each visit of the co, my name was on the list of discussion.
i know this because i was told by both co's and local elders.
the vote was always close, sometimes i missed the cut due to 'low hours' on the part of my wife or daughter, othertimes due to some variation in the way the wts was looking at particular 'requirements'.
I wish I could share this thread with a friend of ours - unfortunately he's still on the inside and really hasn't accepted (correct that: chooses not to really recognize that we are totally OUT - That way he can continue talking with us) - anyway, he's 48 - raised in the truth - never been married - and has never made it past MS. He's been removed and reappointed in 4 different states. His single desire in life is to be appointed elder and he'll never get there. Although every decision he makes in his life is governed by his ministry (from what job he takes to what car he drives to where he lives), his personality grates on some - he's loud. He doesn't have a glass of the kool-aid, he's got and regularly drinks from a bucket of it. The WT is the law for him - there is no separation . . . but try as he does, he'll never get there. An it's an absolute source of frustration in his life!
did you feel guilty when you missed meetings for no good reason ?
did you feel you had to hide from other witnesses seing you ?
how did it make you feel if someone did see you , the next time you saw them did you make-up some excuse ?.
The WT spin on "tattling" is that you are showing your LOVE for your brother by helping to correct whatever the problem is. And there are guidelines: 1st you are to go to your brother and tell them your concern; if that doesn't fix the problem, you bring another "mature" one with you to assist in correcting them; then if that one still doesn't address the issue, you go to the elders.
So guys, you see it's not really tattling at all . . . it's love
bumped into an old friend of my mothers.
her daughter died in a car crash over 30 years ago.
the truth is all she can talk about and seeing her daughter again.
It's hard to grasp just how much this belief affects the lives of the R&F. I have a friend who has been living a double life for 10+ years. She does this with her eyes open and yet won't consider the idea that the org is not the truth. She lost her mother last year and says that she can't live with the thouht she won't see her mother in the new system. (She doesn't quite grasp the fact that sleeping with her worldly boyfriend regularly might keep her out of that paradise . . . but that's her fantasy she's living in.) Anyway, I see that she just can't let go of that hope.
okay, so thursday was my actual birthday - but i understand that i should be celebrating the whole week long .
see what i missed all those years!.
so, happy birthday to me !
Thanks all! I celebrated with a "spa day" - it was fabulous!!! Then the family went out to dinner and I got . . . gifts (horray). Then my hubbie surprised me yesterday by ordering an absolutely decadent cake (cheesecake, rum cake, chocolate mousse & fudge icing) and we invited our friends in the neighborhood over for cake a coffee. It was the perfect ending to the week.
So, now today's Father's Day and I get to return the pampering!
I guess he's earned a few brownie points this week!
okay, so thursday was my actual birthday - but i understand that i should be celebrating the whole week long .
see what i missed all those years!.
so, happy birthday to me !
Okay, so Thursday was my actual birthday - but I understand that I should be celebrating the whole week long . . . see what I missed all those years!
So, Happy Birthday to ME !
my oldest daughter is a handful.
she has a mouth that just doesn't seem to stop and today we got into it .....again.. well, after a bunch of crap coming out of her mouth, i smacked her on the arm and told her to quit the talking to me that way.. then, it got worse when she kicked me.
geez, how would you have dealt with this kind of thing.. i told her i'm going to send her to a camp this summer where they put her on a giant kite (parasailing) and make her fly off a cliff.
Crumpet,
Your comment leads me to believe that this was habitual with your mother and (at least in your opinion) unwarranted. If you were mature enough to actually get to a hotel and then convince management to let you book a room, I'm guessing you probably didn't deserve to be hit. I'm glad you were safe and survived.
