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  Atheists, Agnostics: Do you still pray?

  by Eh in

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  for people who left, not only the organization, but also the canaanite/judaic/christian/islamic/bahai god, do you still pray?

  before we left the group we (my wife and i) were questioning the bible and the existence of god.

  being witnesses, we were uneducated and never heard of things like pascal's wager, but we (my wife especially) had come to a similar idea - even if the whole thing were ballocks, there was little harm in continuing.

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  sass_my_frass

  No; that's the point.
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  How many have gone back to college after leaving the Borg?

  by JK666 in

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  ME!! I am 5/24ths of the way through a bachelor in business studies - IT and economics. It's very difficult and very boring. I love it.
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  Undecided...not fair

  by Cindi_67 in

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  imagine a sister/brother is preaching.

  the household is a family of "baptists" to give an example.

  they start giving the message and one of the members of the family likes what he/she hears.

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  sass_my_frass

  I think that even in the cases of those who have been able to do the most successful and bloodless (no pun intended) 'fade', their mum knew what was going on. I've lost many thousands of acquaintances, dozens of people I considered close friends, four siblings and their children, and yet my parents and mum in particular is the most hurt. She was worried about me since I was very young, she says - I never really got into it. I was able to pretend to for a few years, and it was only to make her happy, and I think that worked, but now that I'm halfway through my life I'd like to spend the rest my way.

  There are many things I have said and thought about mum; that I'm sorry for how much it hurts her, but that I now consider my own wellbeing more important to me than hers; that she has lived her life in the way she has chosen and this is where it got her; that she has four other kids who are also loyal JWs and she treats them like crap too anyway....

  But the most important thing is: This Is My Life. I only get one go at it. I can't make it my mum's life. She had her time too. Now it's mine.
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  Exwitless-as close up as you'd ever want to get...

  by exwitless in

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  i just took this of myself.

  this is exwitless, casual style (my hair looks bad-sorry).. .

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  sass_my_frass

  I was going to say that your avatar is pretty much spot-on too.

  So are you a doctor or nurse?
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  Do You Have The Desire To Move On From Your JW Past?

  by minimus in

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  sometimes i wonder if some might actually enjoy staying in a rut.

  do we forsee ourselves being totally liberated from our former religious past??

  personally, i have no issues feeling bad, angry or hostile toward where i am now.

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  I so much want to move on, but nothing I do can stop me thinking about my family and what they think of me now, how miserable they are, how much it hurts to have been rejected by them, etc. If I could just get rid of those thoughts from the background of every day, I'd consider that moving on.
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  Exwitless-as close up as you'd ever want to get...

  by exwitless in

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  i just took this of myself.

  this is exwitless, casual style (my hair looks bad-sorry).. .

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  Wow, you're GORGEOUS!!
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  I'm not well either

  by KW13 in

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  when you've tried living life with a handicap you never realised was there for a long time, and when you did you denied it the chance to get the better of you - you tend to get down and depressed.

  it took a thread from our brave crumpet and help from some special friends here to make me go to the doctor and get some help.. you see, my symptoms were similar to crumpets if not nearly exactly the same.

  i too suffer from bipolar disorder, the doctor agrees and i agree.

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  Wow, well done KW! I'm proud to know you! I hope that you find the right combination of treatment avenues that lets you get through this. I'm sure you're much better off already.
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  JWs and the fear of death

  by greendawn in

  1. watchtower
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  there was a recent thread on whether the wts attracts emotionally disturbed individuals which is unlikely to be the case since so many jws do not fit that description.

  later i thought perhaps the wts appeals to people that deep inside have a fear of death which is scientifically called thanatophobia (from the greek word thanatos which means death) an excessive and abnormal fear of death.

  what do you think, many jws find it very difficult to come to terms with the inevitability of their (and everyone else's) death and the wts plays with this fear and makes them believe that the end of this world and immortality for the dubs are very near.

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  Yeah I'm trying to work out a similar thing. I have thought about telling my JW siblings, in their thirties, that they're going to grow old and die, but maybe they're not very much different from non-JWs in their thirties. That's a long way away for anybody. By your thirties you have an understanding that it will eventually happen and that you're not invincible, but to JWs it's such a foreign concept, and armageddon is so obviously close, that it won't be anything you'll ever have to face. The older ones in their congregations who are dying are to be respected and honoured for their lifetime sacrifice, but that won't be happening to them.
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  How do we help JWs who want to leave?

  by TwentyYearsOut in

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  what if we held up signs outside of kingdom halls with "go to jehovahs-witness.com for more info" on them...or maybe a billboard.

  something they can't ignore.. i'm fairly new at jwd, so stop me if you've heard this before.. .

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  sass_my_frass

  Think of your own experience. Did you respond to a billboard outside a kingdom hall? Would you have? I think you'd have thought they're deluded and it would have strengthened your resolve not to miss any more meetings, so that these crazy apostates can't get to you.

  My conclusion is that everybody moves at their own pace, and many are very happy right where they are. Leave them alone and focus on yourself. How can you make your own life better? The best revenge on anybody who shuns and hurts you is to get happier all the time. It's also the best indirect anti-witness.

  btw welcome!
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  Reuniting with ex-jws from your home town

  by Mysterious in

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  has anyone had the experience from talking to ex-jws from their home town?

  it really is an eerie experience to talk to someone who knows the exact place, circumstance and lifestyle that you do.

  even more so than the connectedness of places like jwd.

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  sass_my_frass

  I'm meeting our very own MissPeaches (now MrsPeaches...) next Tuesday night, and looking forward to it!