Yep: the elders on my JC. Even creepier; they were actually speaking warmly and compassionately. Even creepier: I thanked them afterwards.
(And my mother).
i was when i had an affair , but this elders pioneer daughter told me she understood why i had done it , i was feeling dreadfull and so guilt ridden but he said i should through myself at my hubs feet and beg forgiveness from him and had i lived 2000 years ago i would have been stoned to death !
the strange thing is a few years later this elder told me he had feelings for me , but he was married and old enough to be my dad , although i liked him as a person by then and had forgotten what he had said to me about being stoned to death, i was a bit annoyed that he told me not to tell anyone ,and yet was telling other people to tattle tale on others , i know he felt really bad about his feelings though and i did feel sorry for him , but asked him not to visit anymore as it made me feel guilty towards his wife , maybe it was gods way of getting him to see things from a wrong doers point of view ,as he had a reputation for being very harsh on wrong doers (like myself) maybe he makes a better elder nowadays after that insight , or maybe they think i was sent by satan to seduce a pioneer and an elder !
Yep: the elders on my JC. Even creepier; they were actually speaking warmly and compassionately. Even creepier: I thanked them afterwards.
(And my mother).
i've been with someone for over ten years.
sounds like a long time to be engaged, but we were perfectly happy with the arrangement, knowing that some of the circumstances in each of our lives needed to be worked out before we could marry.
one day she told me that she wanted to investigate the jws.
That sucks. Yes, standard procedure really. There isn't a lot you could do for her; you're more likely to drive her further in.
as a life long self injurer i belong to a couple self help type groups.
one issue that keeps coming up over and over is everyone's dismay over peoples attitude toward them when they are discovered.
i try to help the young ones ignore peoples ignorant remarks but its difficult.
Well, speaking for myself, I find it gross and immature. Umm, sort of like somebody telling me about how they were so depressed that they got drunk and vomited at work; as if they have a better way of coping than the average Oprah fan. A stronger emotional reaction though, probably because of the ability of open wounds to transmit disease.
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long time lurker, very occasional poster.
i have done the fade thing for 4 years now, and have not attended a meeting in over 2 years.
Hi mate. It does take time, but not 'forever', and not even 'ages'. What might be going wrong is that you're not being proactive enough - it takes time PLUS EFFORT. Bit of a mystery as to what kind of effort, but here's what I suggest: make a list of a thousand things that you want to do with your life. Do a hundred of them this year. Get out of your bubble and into new things that force you into situations in which you have to grow; socially, emotionally, intellectually.... If you don't do this you will feel like you are stagnating and start wondering why you wanted a new life. It's not working at the moment because you haven't started living it yet.
ok i posted a couple weeks ago that my uncle was dying.
i just found out today that he passed away on february 28th (yeah i know, i'm always the last to know these things).. ok, here's the problem - his funeral is scheduled for march 15th.
they couldn't have it this saturday, apparently there is something going on at gillead and people that would be attending the funeral will be there instead.
Funerals are for the living. You go only if you need to in order to help you grieve (seems irrelevant in your case), or in order to support those who were close to the deceased as it helps to know that a lot of people cared about them.
i have to admit when i am wrong, so here goes.
my family is the same as every other.
just as lowdown, greedy and liars to the core.
Yeah, it's another nice little game they get to play. But really, isn't it everybody's right to decide what goes in their own will? Just like you have decided what's in yours? Is there anybody who would feel entitled to a cut of your estate that you're cutting out? I'm not breeding, so I'm everybody's favourite aunt, but if the JW kids don't get in touch with Aunty Sass when they finish school they're out of the will. That's just because they're not treating me the way I want to be treated. Our folks all feel the same way. It's their money, not ours - it never was ours.
Money is a great way to wield power. Try to put it in perspective; don't know if you're an only child / how many grandchildren there are, but it's not likely that you'd be the sole recipient. As JWs, I doubt we're talking multimillions here. Subtract from their estate the future cost of their nursing care, divide the remainder by the amount of people you think the money is going to, and that's all you're missing out on. Of course, if it's all going to the kid and the society, you're one of many who they are isolating, and it's unlikely that they have been discreet about it. They'll already have started paying the price by the amount of people who are discarding them.
At least now you know that you're not up for the nursing care bill.
i know of quite a few that did , some have never been found out , are they asked by the elders before the wedding if they have done it ?
Well I hadn't thought about that; that's interesting. All my JW were always pressured into having their wedding at the kingdom hall. The last JW wedding I went to, I remember the couple talking about that conversation with the elders. Having the wedding in the KH brings praise to Jehovah, you see, but they hated their hall and wanted to have the wedding in a garden. (At least, that's what they said). Either the elders wanted them to ask if they could use it, so that they could wield their authority by demanding to know any reasons why they shouldn't be able to; or my friends were well and truly intimate and made up that little story.
*Mentally checks off a great long list of married JW ex-friends*
Yeah, I'd say a lot. Ironically, none of them consider me worthy of their company any more.
just out of interest id like to know how many aussies are posting?
im on the east coast, been everywhere from desert to coast.
Hi and welcome.
i was thinking about what i would do if a family member was in the situation of refusing a blood transfusion.
if the doctors were trying to force them to accept a transfusion, would i support my family members right to choose or would i take the position that they are brainwashed and are incapable of making a rational choice on the matter?
does the fact that they are hopelessly ill informed take away from their right to make a choice that they know will kill them?
My SIL lost a lot of blood in childbirth last year; a dangerous amount. Refused blood of course. I don't know how bad it got but know that she has been weak and unwell since. So I'm able to answer this question for myself: apparently I will not interfere in the case of an adult.
If it was my nieces and nephews though, I'd get in touch with the police and see if there's anything they need to know. I've heard of cases where the state takes the child as ward. I'd be available in case a family member needed to be involved in that. It would make the entire family's deep hatred of me final, but it would have to be done.
As if I'd ever know if something like this was going on...
i've been a jw all my life and am thoroughly convinced this is the truth.
but there is one thing that i just don't understand.
many jw's believe that people who get resurrected in the new system will not get married.
Why not go and preach to people if you are so sure? That is your RESPONSIBILITY, is it not?
No.
Good on you kid. All the best.