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This is how JW's view the change in the book study
by TooBad TooSad ina very good friend of mine is convinced that the change in the book study arrangement.
is a sign that the end is so near and the jehovah made the change to emphasize the.
importance of the meetings.
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Elder burnout
by easyreader1970 ini know that some have said that they aren't seeing it in their local congregations.
but i have been in two congregations in the past 2 years and they are both struggling to keep elders and ministerial servants.
one much worse than the other, though.
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sass_my_frass
Yep. Relieving them of the book study is going to keep a lot more of them on board.
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I think I just need to tell the story to someone who will get it?
by aimless inhi everyone, im new.
i've been feeling a burden on myself for the years that i have been out and i just don't know how to ease it.
i can't talk about the organization or the people in it to anyone... if i try i immediately feel sick and want to close up and just disappear.
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sass_my_frass
Wow that's really messed up, that your parents didn't protect you from that. Hope you're ok.
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5thGen update
by 5thGeneration inthanks again for all the advice.. had the big meeting and things actually went really well.. i wanted to avoid attacking the society at first and focus on my discouragement and burn out.. quoted the wt from sunday and told him this is exactly how i feel: "i have grown numb and become crushed to an extreme degree; i have roared due to the groaning of my heart.
my own heart has palpitated heavily, my power has left me, and the light of my own eyes also is not with me.
38:8,10.. to my surprise, all he did was quote a few things from the article and a few scriptures and asked if there was anything he could do.. it seemed that he was pleased that i didn't express 'truth' issues but that it is just emotional issues so i figured why mix it up now and bring crap up.. he left asking if i can at least try to hit one sunday meeting a month but he'd still like to see the girls try to go!
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sass_my_frass
I applaud you on a wise choice. Why make life any harder? Hope you're ok.
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Text Message I Just Received From An Old Witness Friend
by str8?so is spaghetti..until you heat it up inthis is a text message i just received from a guy who was in my old congregation.
(ps, no there was no shenanigans going on there, i wasn't interested in this guy in that way...even though he was possibly the best friend i had ever had within jws).. "hi rob.
please come back to the truth.
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sass_my_frass
It hurts to know that we hurt people and that there's nothing we can do about it. It hurts more, the way that they treat us. It sucks to know how little we ever meant to them in the first place.
I haven't been able to maintain a relationship with a JW, even those who are comparatively open-minded. There's the Big Thing in the way. They can't be my friend if they don't want to hear about a great birthday party I went to, or my future career plans. They didn't even bother making contact on my wedding day. I'm sure that even if my siblings had just sent one sms telling me they hope I have a nice day, I'd probably have kept trying to get reinstated.
I try to pity them, because that drowns out my disgust with them. I'd like somewhere useful to direct this infuriation. Sometimes I just tell myself they're sadly stupid and I can't be bothered with them.
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your personal favourite books that freed you from the JW's
by ninja in1/captives of a concept.....fantastic....thanks don...you freed my mind completely .
2/visions of glory...barbara harrison....fantastic insights......(god can't kill arnold) .
3/jehovah lives in brooklyn.....ricky francis.....he sums all jw's up brilliantly....love this book .
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sass_my_frass
The collected works of George Orwell did it for me. Every one of his main characters finally gives in. I didn't want to be one of them.
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hi newbie to this great place
by freespirit67 insorry this has turned out longer than i thought.anyway i lived the life of a single mother fell away from the organisation,and eventually met a (worldly) guy who is the most loving guy i have ever met,my best friend,lover and soulmate.i was disfellowshipped 4 months ago because we live with each other and plan to get married in september,unacceptable to the society hence my disfellowshipping.it has broke my mum and dads heart and im so so sorry for this,i love them so much,but no longer want or believe in the jw beliefs.
i still believe in god but dont know where im bound as regards my faith,i really do want to have something.
apart from my mum and dad and the shunning arrangement im so happy,the happiest i have ever been in years,and my 2 youngest ones are happy as well..my eldest daughter is 16 and planning on getting baptised in july which is tearing me apart,she is so like me,but is being brainwashed by a certain crowd of witnesses,need i say anymore...my eldest son who is 18 isnt in the truth and feels the same way i do... anyway thanks for this forum and hope to hear from likeminded friends soon.
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sass_my_frass
Hi and welcome!
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What do you think when people tell you to just "move on"?
by Moxie in...i've heard that a lot over the years.
"just get over it, let the past stay in the past".
i always say, "ya, but...".
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sass_my_frass
I would hope that the least that anybody expects of themselves is that they have noticed that things are 'getting better'. I suspect that there will always be something that remains with everybody, but for any one person it's going to depend on how much they had invested in the first place.
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- teenager, never been a victim of any kind of abuse, gets out in time to take up that college scholarship: probably pretty quickly
- some kind of previous 'status rank' with generations of JW-only family: possibly neverMost of us have people who we have lost, and have to accept that they are likely gone for life. It's a different kind of grief to death or divorce and different complexities. I don't think it's a big deal that it takes a long time to recover from. I remind myself that everybody goes through something and that this is comparatively minor, so, *lucky me* in a way.
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Crisis Mode! Advice please!
by 5thGeneration ini am in deep shite!.
haven't been to a meeting for a year.
rumours are rampant in canada as my family is 'prominent'.. p.o.
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sass_my_frass
The day you want to stop running and stand up to your bully of a father, get a baseball bat or a crowbar, and be holding it during any conversation you have with him. He must not interfere in your family, and if you have to lose him and many other people, it will be a small price to pay for you and your children.
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Something Else I Was Thinking About...
by str8?so is spaghetti..until you heat it up insometimes i look back at my 27 years as a witness and am astounded by the amount of double speak that goes on in the organisation.
god loves unconditionally, but only certain ones, god is going to save the world from its downward spiral, but first of all he is going to destroy millions of evil people.
it is all so fatalistic and unkind.
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sass_my_frass
hugs for (really not) str8...
Awful, awful experiences that people have in the hands of elders. Talk about it, write about it, think about it, tell yourself how great it is that that might be one of the worst things you go through, and look forward to a time when you realise it's behind you.