Yeah it's a tough call; I like what Scully says, but I also like the people who say, to kill them with kindness. I intend to stay in lifetime contact with the people who shun me; just occasionally including them on the email list when I send out general news about my life. If they ever tell me to stop doing that, I'll leave them alone with the final thought, that 'I have already forgiven you'. I know they're not in control of their lives or thoughts, and if they ever do question the wisdom of how they treated me, they might remember that it's okay, I've already forgiven them. Meanwhile life is for the living, and I'll be getting on with mine.
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I need some help. How do you deal with your JW family
by Apostanator inmy whole family is in the troof.
i am at a point were i want to present them a book on cults.
i have nothing to lose as they have dis-owned me for years and have only recently came back into my life as a result of my moms illness ( alzeimers ) these people are driving me nuts!!!
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Guilt, the gift that keeps on giving
by sass_my_frass indarling mother asks me often 'so you're definitely going to all the meetings?
and you're not doing this just to get your family back, right?
you actually want to be a witness?
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Darling mother asks me often 'so you're definitely going to all the meetings? And you're not doing this just to get your family back, right? You actually want to be a witness?' I tell her what she wants to hear, I'm sure that she's better off not knowing the real answer. As it is now, the only child who talks to her is the disfellowshipped one, if she cuts me off nobody will care. Every meeting night I feel so weary, and I swallow the bitter pill to fix this problem. I'll be married in a few moments, and I don't want this millstone around our necks. But what about darling mother? How could I break her heart? She thinks she's tough, but she's a fragile thing. Brought to you by Your Bible Trained Conscience (tm)
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Help! I am having feelings of doubt.
by cab1000 inwhen jesus "selected" the faithful and discreet slave!.
"faithful and discreet slave" and therefore that the society was not.
the witnesses as "the faithful and discreet slave".. .
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'You'll know them from their love?'. I wonder how much love you've had from your 'brothers' since your life took moved you in a different direction.
And you know what annoyed me the most? That he was guilt-tripping you about your bubs; that you're not offering them a 'hope for the future'. Well guess what, you're doing them the enormous favour of trusting them to take their own path. I think your spiritual responsibility as a parent goes as far as ensuring they know that the search for the meaning of life, and god, is as old as civilisation, and that each of us needs to make up our own mind. If they want to follow any group, that's an individuals choice, but make sure they've looked at every other group too.
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Help! I am having feelings of doubt.
by cab1000 inwhen jesus "selected" the faithful and discreet slave!.
"faithful and discreet slave" and therefore that the society was not.
the witnesses as "the faithful and discreet slave".. .
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I think you should let it go, and keep them in your life to some small extent. Being cut off is brutal; if you can avoid it, it's worth it.
His first list of questions sounded like the index page of any WBTS book, and it probably was. He sounds so defensive. Give him time and he might even start asking questions, and if so he knows he can talk to you about them. In the meantime you have your own lives to enjoy and your bubs to parent, and why give them family issues?
I like your take on life, in that it's similar to mine, and I can relate to getting the shakes any time I have a conversation with anybody in The Truth; it's like going back in time. I can't back up my own beliefs now, just like I couldn't then. Everybody here has had theirs shaken up. Just chill for now. I hope that god gets that it's confusing too.
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My wifes struggle
by gringojj inhi friends.
well its seems my wife has hit a standstill with the dubs.
some of you may know my situation, but i guess its all relative anyway.
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Hi you poor pregnant lady! What a time to be going through this! Hey I hope you're well otherwise.
For most of my life I was willing to believe what I was told because it came from people who seemed to know what they were talking about, could reason it through, seemed intelligent etc. I never looked into it myself. Important thing I tell myself all the time now; if they're not willing to face some questions, to reason an argument out, they don't know what they're talking about. These people who you study with absolutely must be able to answer any question that you or your man puts to them. Look for answers, not a simple whitewash solution for what you want in your life. You're probably looking for security for your family, you're probably enjoying the love that they show you. Ask yourself, did you always get that love? You might have been scared by 9/11 or the tsunami or something, but don't let the confusion of life get to you... if you commit yourself and your children to this, you're taking on more than a few friendly new people and nice dreamy future.
Research; your life and your children's future is worth it.
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My first post - How do I stop JW Bible Study (nicely)?
by emcee inthis is my first post, so i hope youll all bear with me.
my dad passed away in oct 2004 and a customer called me shortly afterwards.
i'll call her ellen.
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Hi and welcome... I'm so sorry that you have been targeted while you're vulnerable, I hope that you can be polite but firm, and that you can work it out.
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how to live with JW
by freefly inhey,.
my partner in life (26yrs) has been converted to jw by his mother.. i am not one to whine -as very aware many have more troubles in their life.. i suppose one of my fears has been this exactly- as i know he was raised jw and should have saw the "signs.
" he always regularly visited with his mom, which i respected as felt a good sign he had a mother/son relationship.
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Hi freefly, sorry about your love being ruined by these people.
I can relate to how much 9/11 scared me, and how much guilt my ma can get going in me.
I'm glad for you, that you have a plan... and I'm sorry that's it's come to this, but hope that you can work through it.
be brave!
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Penetrating the GB's deceptive facade of christian love.
by greendawn inthe gb of the jws either directly or more often by implication consistently try to come across as people that deeply care about and love the so called truth, jehovah, and all the brotherhood.
this is however a pretence something totally artificial and out of their character as they are in fact deeply into practicing deceit and exploiting the "brotherhood".
what instances can you recall where you managed to see through that deceptive loving persona the face of the rapacious ruthless wolf underneath?
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Only my experience; the brutality of being disfellowshipped... the moment at which, in the committee meeting, they stop being warm and kind, good listeners... and delivered the news of what their judgment is. The sun went out, the ground gave way, my blood ran cold... yeah I didn't feel loved at that time.
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first breakup
by susu812 inok so i had my first breakup a couple of months ago--pretty serious--first bf-(well first everything)-and we last for a year.
now what is the "proper" grieving time?
and tell me why everyone must make sure you know what your ex is doing and whats going on with them?
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Sorry Susu! No it's a very subjective thing, but give yourself as much time as you need.
My first (of a year and a half)? After a year I only cried every few days. I thought for a while that you only fully get over it when you move on to somebody else, but now I know that there will always be a little scar that bleeds when I scratch it. Just a little one!
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Human Sexuality 101: Everything a young girl needs to hear?
by Check_Your_Premises in"body you" is very smart about a few, simple things.
this is how you want it because "body you" is kind of a moron.. fact 2: all living things have two primary desires: to stay alive, and to have offspring.. this is a basic, defining biological fact.
of course "brain you" doesnt think, "i want to talk to that cute boy because i want to procreate", but "body you" is!
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CYP, just curious; before you had daughters, did you care that the focus of a woman's sexuality wasn't the same as yours?