my daughter phoned me today after her dc, she said it was good.
she also went on to tell me how she was unhappy with an elder on their case about improving their fs, she said he hinted about her pioneering something she said she doesnt want to do.
she and her new hubby hate fs.
"Well my dearie, Jehovah is just going to have to kill you at Armegeddon since you aren't carrying your weight selling magazines and books. I'm sure Jeusus would agree that you are bird food if you don't sell, sell, sell!"
carmel of the "sometimes sarcasm tells the truth better than poetry" class
i da'd in march.
i've done enough research and know enough about the org to know that i could never never believe that crap again.
i doubt the bible... i despise the label of "religion" in general and have found such wonderful freedom in my... freedom.
Merfi, I can't really equate to your situation since I left as a teenager and made a lot of new friends quickly, plus there were no other kids my age with which I was close in the cong. So, that being said, I'd bet a blond hottie 37 yrold would not have any trouble finding companionship, friendship, whatever! With all that corn growning around you, why would you want to go to a KH for more? Seems a tad masochistic!
So there! I can ramble too! Anyway, I just wanted to tell you, you sound like a perfectly normal person going through "withdrawls" and for what it's worth, a big cyber hug commin to ya!!
carmel
what has been your attitude toward religion after leaving jehovah's witnesses?.
did you search for religious truth?
scoff at religion?
Dear lyin, you're in good company! Many the folk that have been innoculated against anything resembling religion by the Publishing Company masqurading as a relgion!
carmelbbbbbbb
at the last assembly, the circuit overseer made the comment, "people should not look for justice within the congregation.
instead, people should do what is necessary to keep the peace within the congregation.".
what is that suppose to mean?
My wife worked in a mental health agency for twenty years and she used to remind me when dealing with crazy people you can't try to make what they say have any rationality. If you do, you'll become as crazy as they are. Don't try to make sense out of the pronuncements of the JW rag mags. You will become as crazy as they!
carm
what has been your attitude toward religion after leaving jehovah's witnesses?.
did you search for religious truth?
scoff at religion?
I'll presume that the assumption that "religion" and "spiritual journey" have something in common for the sake of answering your question. After leaving the JWs at the tender age of 14, I attended every denomination of Christianity I could find. Unfulfilled, I began reading while in college about other faiths. Never attended their synogogs or temples or mosques, but looked at them from what most seekers do, very superficially! Looking at any religion based on what it has evolved into over sever hundreds, even thousands of years is like looking in the out house to see what food is! Gross analogy, but just the same, nothing I found in any of the contemporary expressions of any of the world religions was very paletable. I considered myself to be agnostic, secular humanist for neigh on to a two decades. Having given up on relgion, I thought I could find fulfillment in politics. What a joke! It wasn't until I moved to Alaska and was challenged to look at religions from a completely new perspective that I associated once again with a faith. The Baha'i Faith had a cosmology that fit with my science background and my formal and informal education in human nature plus it had a frame work of involvement that was not a burden. I was free to be a wall flower or be as active as I chose without pressure to do more. I could get out of it what ever I wanted to put into it. Simple formulae. Kind of like making investment decisions... ew... bad analogy since I eventually invested in tech stocks in the late 90's!!!
My "spiritual" quest continues. It is a continuous effort to move out of my "comfort zone" and become someone I aspire to become in a world that is in flux and one that does not necessarily reward the unconventional. Even my fellow Baha'is have trouble contending with my streak of skepticism at times. I challenge every sacred cow, every culturally aquired assumption. I still dislike the word "spiritual" as I can't really honestly get my mind around it in concrete terms.. I like cause and effect relationships, and the metaphysical world (and I am unabashedly convinced of its reality) doesn't play by the same rules as the contingent world.
So, there you have it.
carmel (writing as the fireworks scares the crap out of my dog and cat)
or cookies.. or pie.. or somethin... i was grocery shopping sunday.. went past the cake mix / pudding/ baking needs aisle and thought hmmmmmm if i buy it i'll eat it..so i took the moral high ground and didnt buy anything..... now 2 days later... i want my cake!!!.
betty crocker where are you?.
(i know i'm old..but those confetti cake mixes that are supposed to be for kids?..
Hey, I just polished off a double helping of yummy cheeze cake with fresh raspberries on the top! Ummmmmmmmmmmm!
carmel
first excuse my spelling throughout this piece.this issue has a lot of back history that is needed to understand it, so please bear with the long summary.. i am currently still a jehovah witness, on paper; i have not attended a meeting for over 6 months.
i was reproved about 7 months ago.
because i questioned their actions, and i had influence over others.
Welcome Ann! As far as I'm concerned, Jehovah has acted! He has given you insight into the reality of a group of people claiming to represent Him. I would take it as a strong message to stand up and be counted. I'd love to come to your wedding if it weren't so darned far away!
carmel
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i found the dc very interesting this year do to my reading of this site.
i took note that the danger of the internet was menitioned no less than three times, once with a demonstration showing a brother who found a site by a innocent search of the web on a jw subject to the very last talk, concluding remarks and final "resolution" that consisted of 10 items with number 10 staying away from dangerous sites and chat rooms.. makes you wonder what the real story is behind that much attention being given to this problem iof theirs.. oc
Back in 1958 I checked with JWD just out of curiosity to see what the "opposers" were thinkin. Kinda like "know your enemy"! Well wouldn't you know, old Simon snagged me in and I been doin the debbils due every since!
postate pete
i am familiar with the jehovahs witness faith though i have never belonged to it.
i am not attracted to it.
i am deeply interested in the welfare of individuals who have been injured in their souls.
"A rose is a rose, in what ever garden it grows!" How's that for "fine thinkin"?
carmel
oh! Welcome Rosey
personally, i'm feeling better about things.
i don't cringe when i see a witness now.
i may still try to avoid contact with certain ones but now i feel more than ever before that jws are crackpots and whether they look down on me or not, they are the ones with the issues----not me!
It's a bowl of cherries!
carmel
