Not being catty, but cruiser must be bored or depressed. Even an old Mickey Spalane is better reading...
carmel
vindication book 2 p. 141.
"the young men of aven and of pibeseth shall fall by the sword; and these cities shall go into captivity.
" (30:17){ezekiel 30:17} "aven" means "vanity, wickedness," and "the young men of aven" seems to refer to the strong ones of big business giving worship to the selfish and wicked things which are vain.
Not being catty, but cruiser must be bored or depressed. Even an old Mickey Spalane is better reading...
carmel
i would like to get some honest answers about your position on blood transfusion.
as we get older, sooner or later we wind up in the hospital and the question they always ask is"...in the event.. would you accept blood?
" faced with that question, i answered no.
There is no justification scripturally or mddically to refuse blood if a compitent doctor advises for it. You need to separate the issues and realize the JWs spin on both criteria is just that. Since I've donated over eight gallons of blood, I'd sure as heck take a pint or two back if it were called for...
carmel
in montreal, canada in late dec. jean-claude lavoie refused a blood transfusion and died.
his decision has split his family apart--the father respecting his son's decision.
his brother, jonathan, a former jehovah's witness has since launched an internet campaign calling on the government to make it illegal for a person to refuse blood transfusions on religious grounds.
It's too bad refusal of blood isn 't an inheritable trait. If it were, it would be self limiting. Come to think of it, joining a cult should be genetic too! carmel
the whole teaching of needing a fd slave hangs on one scripture that really isn't that clear; however in looking at the scriptures how would you/they explain the texts below from the bible, whether they would classify you as a domestic or fellow anointed or other sheep?
hebrews 8:10-12 .
10for this is the covenant that i shall covenant with the house of israel after those days, says jehovah.
Frankly the scripture sounds to me there is no need for a "leadedership" telling people how to believe. Hence, no clergy, IMHO. carmel
my cup is half-full take on life.
whilst it is an absolute that the years i spent in the borg were many.
at this stage of my new-life outside, i am trying to maintain a high-moral-road view of the cause/effect relationship that it had on me and my life-view.. i believe that coming to the realization that not all of witness life is evil or corrupt or even wasted, is healthier for me than a constant negative rant about what it cost me.
Jeff, may you enjoy a cornicopia of flavors and cullinary delights!
carmel
if it was always here, how did it get here?
let's leave god out of the equation for now.. blueblades.
The cosmic golf course! Earth was the result of a sever slice on the third tee! We're lost in the rough!
caveman
this is another point i have always considered where the jw are doing what jesus said where they dont go in to the kingdom and neither do those that they teach.. john 6:53-56 53accordingly jesus said to them: most truly i say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the son of man and drink his blood, you have no life in yourselves.54he that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood has everlasting life, and i shall resurrect him at the last day;55for my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink.56he that feeds on my flesh and drinks my blood remains in union with me, and i in union with him.
could it be that all of should be partaking of jesus blood and flesh at the lord supper, i now do but wonder about all those who are taught not to.
i am listening to the bible and not a man.
...carnivores....
i was baptised in a freewill baptist church about 15 years ago, and then i became a witness and was baptised about 11 years ago.
what my experience has taught me having delved deeply in both (served as a servant and later an elder in wts) is that i don't really believe that there is a god.
why won't he answer me?
Anthropromorphism is alive and well! Why do so many people limit themselves to an ancient text as their only source? If you want a God that talks to humans, keep reading what you're reading and keep vainly hoping! Otherwise, I'd suggest broadening your data base.
carmel
in some private discussions with ex-jws over the years, i have boiled down some of the disagreements to a different view of what worship is or is not.
this view often unwittingly affects ex-jws, and underpins their arguments, even though they do not realize it.. to a jw, worship of jehovah is done by going out door-to-door, attending meetings, commenting, singing, and prayer.
these are acts only done to and for jehovah.. to a protestant, going door-to-door is nice, vene being at church is nice, but not worship.
I've come to believe that true worship is how we treat others. the beatitudes Jesus taught were guides to living the "christian" life and it had little to do with anything else.
carmel
"that we will continue to look to him as the great sun from whom comes our enlightenment, guidance, and healing.
an appropriate quote for a solstice celebration!!!
can you identify this quote from watchtower bs??
Aquagirl,,, beat you to it!!
carmel