How many people follow this guy? He is a real wacko. He talks about being on spaceships and stuff. He is really out there. Anybody know what kind of numbers the nation of islam has? Scary stuff.
gringojj
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Louis Farahkaan?
by gringojj inhow many people follow this guy?
he is a real wacko.
he talks about being on spaceships and stuff.
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Freedon of false religion, at taxpayers expense?
by gringojj ini have touched on this subject before and had some more thoughts about it.
in addition to the active dubs, i wonder how many people there are in the us that believe the jw religion, but arent baptised or are da'd or df'd?.
the reason is, and i will use my wifes father for example, he has spent the last 10 or so years of his life living off the system.
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I have touched on this subject before and had some more thoughts about it. In addition to the active dubs, I wonder how many people there are in the US that believe the JW religion, but arent baptised or are da'd or df'd?
The reason is, and I will use my wifes father for example, he has spent the last 10 or so years of his life living off the system. He gets social security every month, and he is an active addict. He has been df'd for 10 or more years now, but still believes the JWs are the true religion. This puts him in the same mentality my wife had when we met. I call it the all or nothing mentality. "If I am not doing everything right and living my life according to the JW standards, I may as well do nothing right". I guess they figure they are damned anyway so why bother.
We have freedom of religion in this country so they have the right to believe that. But we pay to support people like my wifes father with our taxes. In some way we are supporting the WTS by allowing people to still believe in them and let them get money every month. My wife went into the SS office a few months back and saw several JWs there. Not that I am saying they dont deserve it, there are many non-religous people who abuse the system.
My question is how many jw believers are out there who are living that all or nothing mentality life at the expense of taxpayers? And how much are thier self-destructive lives costing taxpayers?
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Since you left Jehovahs................................
by defd inorganization and the faith.
what hope do yall entertain for the future....the everlasting future?
do you still believe, want to be on a paradise earth or what?
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I know my wife says she will always believe in a paradise on earth although I am skeptical that she will always believe that because the more I talk with her about how it makes no sense and is pretty much impossible the more I think she doubts it. She once said she would rather spend eternity in misery in a paradise earth with all jws than die at the end of this life. I think that is a sad way to look at things.
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What if jws were given polygraphs?
by gringojj inwhat would the results be like for questions like "have you ever doubted your religion"?
how about "do you believe your worldly husband will be killed at armageddon"?.
what if the wts decided to use polygraphs on all dubs to test thier faith?.
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What would the results be like for questions like "have you ever doubted your religion"?
How about "do you believe your worldly husband will be killed at armageddon"?
What if the wts decided to use polygraphs on all dubs to test thier faith?
What are some other good questions you would ask a zealous dub?
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Why do jws need Jesus?
by gringojj ini was just thinking if jesus is only the mediator for the 144000 then why did god even bother sending him?
i am an atheist so i dont know much about the bible.
up until jesus time and i think after jesus died god was sending his message through other people.
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I was just thinking if Jesus is only the mediator for the 144000 then why did god even bother sending him? I am an atheist so I dont know much about the bible. Up until Jesus time and I think after Jesus died god was sending his message through other people. I mean surely he could have sent his message through these people. But he chooses to send Jesus to earth and have him die for our sins. Why didnt he just communicate his message to the 144000 directly? It just seems like alot of extra work for an omnipotent god to send jesus to bring the message to the 144000 to then dispense the food at the proper time to everyone else. Why the middle man?
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What does the WTS have to gain?
by Low-Key Lysmith inthe one question that still burns in my mind is what does the wts possibly have to gain by keeping so many people deluded and brainwashed?
does the gb really think they are doing god's work knowing full well that they are nothing but a bunch of liars?
how can they, in good conscience, encourage people who will die without blood transfusions do so knowing full well that it's a farce?
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Easy..............money and power.
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Hi everyone I am new here
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this is a new thread started from the one my husband left yesterday............ hi everyone,this is gringojjs wife.i thankyou all for your comments and your help,really makes me feel better about my situation especially since i see that most of what im going through alot of you have been through the exact same thing.it makes me realize im not the only one and that i can get through this tough time like most of you have.i can really identify with the poster who made the comments about being scared after leaving,not realizing if it was the right decision or not.i am really scared of armagedon,of invisible wicked forces the wts teaches you to turn away from,just like the poster i watched a horror film a couple nights ago and it was about demonism,i was extremely scared i was going to be bothered by the demons for getting involved in watching those kinds of movies.its ridiculus how scared i was,just believing in satan and his demons,and what they could or could not do.something my husband doesnt really understand because he doesnt believe in satan or jehovah or a god at all,but when you do believe its scary to think you are upseting god or on the side of satan.i dont know where i am at right now i do know that im confused,the witnesses coming to the door,halloween coming up......which btw i celebrated last year but my concience is really doing me in this time.........i dont know what to do with the kids !
do they celebrate do they not?i dont know, when the time comes mabe i will but i know one thing i have to make a choice, for my husbands sake,for my sanity,and for our children.i am glad i have people to share my pain and suffering with,my mother says i dont want to suffer at all because im afraid of losing my husband if i become baptized,she says thats what you have to do for the truth....suffer....im not going to be happy suffering through life and for what?mabe nothing.i am not afraid of losing my husband i am afraid of dissapointing my mom but im not going to stay in a religon that makes me totally screwed up in the head.i used to have panic attacks when i was attending meetings i havent had one since not attending,i still have exterme anxiety from worry and fear but no panic attacks....hm....go figure!last thing,the other day a born again christian approched me by my local post office and asked me if i was interested in attending his church.i simply told him no thankyou my children are already screwed up enough from the jws.
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Thankyou guys for your advice,once again very helpul,and i guess i dont realize how much time my husband does spend on this forum trying to understand and help me.He has learned so much from this forum,practically everything he needs to know to get me away from the wts.As some of you may recall he came here because i was having some doubts about the jws but now my doubts have turned into total disbelief in the org (almost).Its just like a poster said and i cant remember who it was but he said that when you have been indoctrinated as badly as i have even hardcore evidence and facts about something can still not be enough to get you out of it ,therapy may be needed and i think in my case he may be right.Even though the jws makes almost no sense,its still difficult to believe they are not the truth as i have been taught to believe they are the only way since i was born.
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No good news to report
by gringojj inwell friends things had bad going very well for my wife recently.
she had been looking a the wts critically for quite some time now.
we would have daily discussions on how so many things didnt make sense.
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Hi everyone,this is gringojjs wife.I thankyou all for your comments and your help,really makes me feel better about my situation especially since i see that most of what im going through alot of you have been through the exact same thing.It makes me realize im not the only one and that i can get through this tough time like most of you have.I can really identify with the poster who made the comments about being scared after leaving,not realizing if it was the right decision or not.I am really scared of armagedon,of invisible wicked forces the wts teaches you to turn away from,just like the poster i watched a horror film a couple nights ago and it was about demonism,i was extremely scared i was going to be bothered by the demons for getting involved in watching those kinds of movies.Its ridiculus how scared i was,just believing in satan and his demons,and what they could or could not do.Something my husband doesnt really understand because he doesnt believe in satan or jehovah or a god at all,but when you do believe its scary to think you are upseting god or on the side of satan.I dont know where i am at right now i do know that im confused,the witnesses coming to the door,halloween coming up......which btw i celebrated last year but my concience is really doing me in this time.........I DONT KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH THE KIDS ! Do they celebrate do they not?I dont know, when the time comes mabe i will but i know one thing i have to make a choice, for my husbands sake,for my SANITY,and for our children.I am glad i have people to share my pain and suffering with,my mother says i dont want to suffer at all because im afraid of losing my husband if i become baptized,she says thats what you have to do for the truth....suffer....Im not going to be happy suffering through life and for what?Mabe nothing.I am not afraid of losing my husband i am afraid of dissapointing my mom but im not going to stay in a religon that makes me totally screwed up in the head.I used to have panic attacks when i was attending meetings i havent had one since not attending,i still have exterme anxiety from worry and fear but no panic attacks....hm....go figure!Last thing,the other day a born again christian approched me by my local post office and asked me if i was interested in attending his church.I simply told him no thankyou my children are already screwed up enough from the JWS.
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No good news to report
by gringojj inwell friends things had bad going very well for my wife recently.
she had been looking a the wts critically for quite some time now.
we would have daily discussions on how so many things didnt make sense.
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Yes I would like to see Blondies advice too
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No good news to report
by gringojj inwell friends things had bad going very well for my wife recently.
she had been looking a the wts critically for quite some time now.
we would have daily discussions on how so many things didnt make sense.
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Thanks for all the support friends. I let my wife read these posts and she likes what alot of you are saying. I wish she would start posting here maybe it would begin her healing.