if you have been following anything about my situation (likely not), i have been baptised for 20 years.
my profile (as of today) says:i have committed no immorality.
i have only stopped believing that the christian congregation of jehovah's witnesses represents the interests of god in any way.
auldsoul i care! you have been a massive help to me on my threads and i really appreciate that,
if theres anything i can do to help let me know, i thin k you have a wife do you? in that case it makes it extra hard i have lost my hubby coz i just cant go back anymore!
but stay strong you will feel better in yourself if you stand by what you think is right (god i wish i could take my own advice sometimes )
let us know how you go on,
with the "new" way jw's are expelled from the congregations how would the congregation know who left on their own(disassociated) themselves or was disfellowshipped for "wrongdoing".
when i left the elders told me that they would tell the congregation that i "disassociated"my self and that would be that.
the whole congregation would know that i left on my own and was not expelled for immorality or wrongdoing.
me and sirona were talking about this the other day, when people are dfed everyone says 'i wonder what they did thats so bad' when people da themselves people may wonder why? there are questions that need answering!
the society dont want the dubs to know that there is anything wrong with their wonderful organization, there clever aren't they the sneaky beggers!
i am new to the board and am looking forward to many insightful discussions here.. a good friend of mine attends a congregation where sisters are working behind both the literature and magazine counters.
the brothers who were handling those responsibilities were removed because in the elder body's opinion, none of them were "exemplerary".police officer explained that save for the elders and a few of the ministerial servants, none of the men in the congregation were meeting the national average in field service time, so for the foreseeable future, "exemplerary".
the irony here though is that the same men who are unfit to handle the literature and magazine counters are qualified to offer opening and closing prayer for meetings and do reading for the watchtower study.
how can the society be so two faced?
do the dear sisters have their heads covered? i didnt think sisters could do much except be 'a large army'
on one occasion there were no brothers at the group and i was asked to read, but lated the elder got counselled for it!
it makes me mad!!
soooooo any of you thats been following my threads thanks (and poor u) i have changed my mind so many times.
i have finally decided that i must stop trying to get reinstated, basically i got dfed 9 months ago had a boyfriend i felt i loved, was married tho still to my hubby who is only just starting to divorce me, (hes waited coz he keeps saying we could try again for the sake of our daughter but he would expect me to be completly in the 'truth') i hid the bf from my family coz they were so heartbroke and i decided to please them i would get reinstated and then fade, but as time went on i realised that wasnt an option as with a family like mine it would be so hard to do, plus there was the bf still hidden poor guy, anyway we spilt up several times, i was a complete physco i kept blaming him for everything,.
anyway last month i put my letter of reinstatement in and sat there scared stiff that they would reinstate me (as that would defo mean the end of the bf) they didnt reinstate me, and i blamed the bf and we spilt for good;.
Ross the answer to your question is no i dont think its the truth but did you never question it esp as your choice of course meant you losing so much you must of been certain, how were you?
big willy thanks i would love u and ur wife to be on my family list
diamondblue, i really do appreciate you saying all that tho i havent a clue what those cases were about, it's something i have been pretty worried about, coz now i have decided which way to go my hubby will defo start divorce preceedings and he is very clever, and even said the other day that if i tried to 'pioson my daughters mind he would get custody' so what i planned to do was see my solictor about the house etc and then say that i wanted something signing so that she would actually be in my custody (i recieve her child benefit etc) tho we do share her he has her 3 nights i have her 4, is it possiable to get something signed coz i am also worried that his time with her is every weekend which is ok for now but when she starts school i would like to see abit more of her, can they change it in the future?
soooooo any of you thats been following my threads thanks (and poor u) i have changed my mind so many times.
i have finally decided that i must stop trying to get reinstated, basically i got dfed 9 months ago had a boyfriend i felt i loved, was married tho still to my hubby who is only just starting to divorce me, (hes waited coz he keeps saying we could try again for the sake of our daughter but he would expect me to be completly in the 'truth') i hid the bf from my family coz they were so heartbroke and i decided to please them i would get reinstated and then fade, but as time went on i realised that wasnt an option as with a family like mine it would be so hard to do, plus there was the bf still hidden poor guy, anyway we spilt up several times, i was a complete physco i kept blaming him for everything,.
anyway last month i put my letter of reinstatement in and sat there scared stiff that they would reinstate me (as that would defo mean the end of the bf) they didnt reinstate me, and i blamed the bf and we spilt for good;.
Thanks tik i have told him i feel this way since they didn't reinstate me, and being an elder he has admitted he's seen another side of it (i've said it was the worse thing they could of possiably done and how can they think it would make you WANT to come back to the 'truth')
nic why what was your story?
also i feel really upset now, my dad has come round tryed to answer a few of my questions (he said history books prove true christians didnt celebrate birthdays so we shouldnt and said 607 must be right coz of the 70 years counting backl)
sometimes it confuses me as he is so certain of what he means, i have wrote down the list of the kings and other things and he said he look into it!
but basically it was so hard he cried on me said it was like i had died and i am throwing 9 months of trying to get back away, (which i am) and said that if i was going to stop the meetings and see the bf then he will never contact me again he begged me to 'do the right thing' and i said the right thing in who's eye's jehovahs or the watchtowers, he was shocked at my attitude i have hurt him so much, i feel so bad but now is my chance to stick by it and live my life the way i want, or to crumble i did say that i will just go back and be unhappy coz i cant stand to lose him but he said thats not right i have to do things jehs way and study and spend time at his house (esp over christmass!!) and it killed him that i stayed so hard and now im worried in case i have done the wrong thing i keep thinking what is if is the 'truth?' what if i am throwing everything away?
did any of you ever feel like that when you were losing everything?
i'm feeling a bit lonely at the moment and so i decided life would be more
fun if i had a pet.
so, i went to the pet shop and told the owner that i
that was so funny, tho i thought you were serious i think i will get one, (shows how desperate ive become!) but it must beat guniea pigs and cats crapping everywhere at least the centipedes crap would be tiny ( i hope)
hey just ignore me! im mental.
about 12 years ago i developed a cataract in my right-hand eye after an injury.
the surgeon went in and removed my natural lens and implanted an artificial one.
the way they remove the natural lens is they use a little device to chop it up and then they just pluck the bits-n-pieces out.. what has happened is when they did the surgery 12 years ago they missed a piece of the chopped up lens because it was hiding behind my iris.
woah thats freaky! i love eye stuff tho, i have had mine lasered a year ago it was scary smelt like burning rubber!
anyway i hope ur ok,
ps. you have lovely eyes!
i know a lot of us are participating in secret santa but i also love to get and send out christmas cards as well.
all those interested in a x-mas card pm me and i will send you one from las vegas.
sin city.
what do all these btt bumps etc mean?
i'm ignorant in the ways of a computer,
but i would love to be on anyones list it will be my first ever christmass and i want to be able to tell my family i don't want the 'truth' in time to celebrate it, so any cards would be appreciate and add me to any lists.
i had a talk with my father last night about the practice of disfellowshipping.my father is an active jw with privileges in the local hall.he doesn't seem in total agreement with the shunning practice of the wts,and he brought out the example of the prodigal son.we had a good discussion and i'm going to research it some more through the chapter on the misuse of disfellowshipping in the book in search of christian freedom.. anyways,i thought i'd look it up in the reasoning book to see what the wts reasoning on disfellowshipping was.it turns out it's not in the table of contents or in the index.i thought this odd;how would one reason on this with a householder who asks about it?
why is there nothing in the reasoning book on a subject every jw says is scriptural?.
goldminer
what a surprise!
i cant tell you how many times ive had this conversation with my parents, i agree maybe people should be punished for serious wrongs but its the shunning that gets me, the prodigal son, mannasah Judah when he went with tamar(or whoever it was) king david they were never shunned just came back!
jesus spoke to judas and to satan when he tempted him, who would of been the biggest dfed person ever,
it makes me MAD esp coz its breaking my family apart!
soooooo any of you thats been following my threads thanks (and poor u) i have changed my mind so many times.
i have finally decided that i must stop trying to get reinstated, basically i got dfed 9 months ago had a boyfriend i felt i loved, was married tho still to my hubby who is only just starting to divorce me, (hes waited coz he keeps saying we could try again for the sake of our daughter but he would expect me to be completly in the 'truth') i hid the bf from my family coz they were so heartbroke and i decided to please them i would get reinstated and then fade, but as time went on i realised that wasnt an option as with a family like mine it would be so hard to do, plus there was the bf still hidden poor guy, anyway we spilt up several times, i was a complete physco i kept blaming him for everything,.
anyway last month i put my letter of reinstatement in and sat there scared stiff that they would reinstate me (as that would defo mean the end of the bf) they didnt reinstate me, and i blamed the bf and we spilt for good;.
Thanks Ross you are very wise
I appreciate everything you and everyone else has said to me, and i know what i must do, it's just the doing it! i keep almost doing it, my dad has said that he will leave me alone if i am not doing things the right way so maybe thats the best thing to do, tell him i'm definately seeing the boyfriend and then he will leave me alone, it's sad esp when he's not well but maybe it's the only thing i can do for my own sanity!
