are there any beliefs that you still hold onto, or at least believe in still.
or have you totally rejected everything you once believed whilst in the "truth" >?
i still believe that a new system will happen after armageddon.
I'm too new to the idea that it ain't the truth! LOL
My belief system is pretty much shattered, and I'm not prepared to sift through it yet to figure out what bits I'm going to salvage from the wreckage. For the time being, I still believe there is a God (who's name might be Jehovah or something equivalent) and in Jesus Christ. But that may change too.
most of the "real life ex's" that i have met don't want anything to do with other ex's.
these are people who don't like ex-dub boards.
in fact they don't have much time for other ex's, full stop.
I've been lucky to have my best friend when I was in the org come out of it at nearly the same time I did. She's kept in touch with a couple others from that first congregation we were all in together who have left too. It was good to be able to have someone to talk it out with, that's for sure.
She's always been more engaged than I am...did more as a JW certainly, and when she decided she'd had enough, quit faster and more decisively than I did. She also felt that there was much too much that was being altered and shifted by the WTS. All that "new light" was giving her a headache, so she started doing some research. I had just drifted away, figuring that I was the screwed up one, and was like avishai's ex-dub friends who don't want to hear bad stuff about the org. I thought it was still the truth and that I might go back.
My friend emailed me "Terry's Story" a couple weeks ago, however, and the damn burst. I've been all over the internet looking at "apostate" sites ever since and found JWD. I love this. What an amazing source of information and experiences. Nobody can quite understand like people who have been there.
If some can walk away and never look back, good for them, but I'm finding this a great way to de-program myself.
i was at the meeting the other day and the po made a coment saying " we want workers not seat sitters" we'll what did he mean by that.
is this another expression of do more more more and if the person next to you is not not then drop him or her ?
Yep, sounds like more of the same ole, same ole. Keep everybody busy running around in circles so there's no time to get into "trouble" (think for themselves) and if you can't control them that way, the guilt about what slackers they are should effectively keep them in line.
I know of a sister (used to be a good friend of mine), who, since becoming a robot Pioneer, doesn't even have time to shower daily any more from what I've heard. Wouldn't say that's a particularly good "witness"...but, hey, what do I know?
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bronze sculpture depicting david & goliath.. actual size: 14 feet high x 16 feet long x 14 feet wide.. .
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Beautiful!
now i'm a total tv junkie.
i've got 2 recievers so i can record 2 shows at once.
i just set them on a timer and i'm good to go.
LOL We are opposites! I sometimes don't turn the tube on for days. There are some good shows on, I just forget when.
looking in my closet this morning, i saw all these clothes that i bought for the meetings .............. i would not be caught dead in now!!!!!!!.
long frumpy skirts........blouses the my grandma would not wear........i really struggled, and even was more "hip" than most.........ugggggggg.
did you experiance the same thing??.
When I was still young the longer skirts (below knee/mid calf) were "in" enough so that I didn't feel too frumpy. Now that I'm older I can't wear the trendy stuff anyway...or I guess I could, but I'd risk looking like a real nitwit. LOL
I will say that as I got more and more depressed with my life as a JW, my clothes got darker and more frumpy...it was like I wanted to disappear. I either threw that stuff away or gave it to Good Will.
I'm just glad that I don't have to dress up all the time any more.
lately several of the threads on the board have dealt with some really deep spiritual and biblical topics.
i love reading everyone's opinions and seeing links to even more detailed opinions.
it has made me think though.. when i was a strong dub i thought i knew everything about the bible and couldn't wait to 'get into it' with a catholic or protestant priest.
I've never been a very confident person, but I was so very, very sure I'd found the honest to goodness truth, that I became quite conceited too. I'd found the secret of life, doncha know! All those folks who thought I was spouting bullhockey would find out and get their comeupance (not that I truly hoped they die forever...I was banking on everybody being resurrected since the WTS didn't seem to know for sure).
It's a real embarassment to think back on now. Kind of makes me sick to my stomach. blech.
i got an email about a neat idea of what to do with junkmail and i got to do it today.
i got a jc penny credit card offer and junkmail from the healthsystem where where i work.
luckily jc penny included a "no postage necessary if mailed in united states" envelope i just tore up all my junkmail and stuffed it into the prepaid envelope.
Cool idea! ::looking forward to next batch of junk mail::
i believe in jesus christ the son of god conceived of the virgin mary and who is one and the same as the father and the holy spirit, and through him all things where created.
i believe that he was crucified as a perfect sacrifice for our sins and on the third day rose from the dead and later ascended in heaven.
it is through jesus christ that we enter the kingdom of heaven and there is no lack of space in heaven.
I'm sorry, kman, but sincere though you may be, you come off sounding nuttier than a fruitcake and just as much a member of a cult as any of those religions you have listed.
Frankly, it was distaste for wild-eyed evangelicals with fire and brimstone oozing from every pore that caused me to listen to the sweet, soft-spoken, rather intelligent (however misguided) JW sister that came to my door so many years ago. While I no longer believe that Jehovah's Witnesses have "the truth", I still find her calm, reasonable approach much more appealing than your's.
Just because you believe something, and repeat it over and over again ad nauseum, doesn't make it so...as most of us here have already discovered at great cost.
i believe in jesus christ the son of god conceived of the virgin mary and who is one and the same as the father and the holy spirit, and through him all things where created.
i believe that he was crucified as a perfect sacrifice for our sins and on the third day rose from the dead and later ascended in heaven.
it is through jesus christ that we enter the kingdom of heaven and there is no lack of space in heaven.
Thinking that if others don't believe as you do, they are doomed. Very JW, my dear.
