Aww, crap, are they still doing the conventions? in person? or are they supposed to sit on the computer for 2 1/2 days?
Posts by carla
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Invitation
by jhine ini just received a hand written envelope through the post containing an invitation to the online 2021 convenient.
i'm in staffs in the uk .
jan .
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WT'S memory loss, minimizing the "memorial",
by waton infor those still interested in wt maneuvers, this past week's wt study re: ransom.
after the talking snake and consequences part: .
"john wrote more about the ransom" then others.
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carla
Vanderhoven, exactly! I asked my jw that very thing. I think he got it for a minute but then ....well, you know how it goes, cult thinking kicks in.
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Will there be a sense of urgency in 30 years?
by neat blue dog init's pretty easy to see how current events would have any jw convinced the end is imminent, but i just don't see how there could be a major push for zealous service, pioneering, etc.
decades into the future.
even if (when) world events happen periodically that could scare the r&f, there are now countless hours of hd video of jw leaders saying how close the end is.
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carla
I think because memories are short they will always have the end being right around the corner. Add to that the idea that researching or even looking at old literature is somehow evil is a recipe the cult will keep using for many years to come.
Maybe when the older generation begins to die off and families don't have to worry so much about shunning then it may become a smaller and smaller org with few 'true believers' and many just there out of familial tradition or those hedging their bets, just in case.
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carla
When I first came here it was like learning a new language. Not being familiar with the acronyms (like fs, tatt, pimo,etc..) but also all the jw terms. I had to learn jw terms & publications and 'apostate' terminology. (I was never a jw)
Also, when people post about a scripture, I don't know about all of you but I have to go look those up too. Not all of them but many. If I ask about how jw's handle a certain scripture I post the whole scripture but never from the NWT. Yeah, maybe that is my problem to begin with? not looking first a NWT, I just can't bring myself to though. I am eternally grateful to those who will still answer me!
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Having It Both Ways
by Sea Breeze in1. when individuals leave the organization for conscience reasons, it is evidence that god is shepherding and protecting the flock by doing a sifting work.
when people leave another christian religion it is evidence that the religion is morally corrupt and unable or unwilling to provide spiritually for their members.. 2. when a christian from another denomination lies, he is acting according to his own disposition being from the father of the lie.
when a jehovah's witness lies, he is proving his loyalty to jehovah and fulfilling his sacred obligation to engage in spiritual warfare.. 3. during times of rapid growth the organization claims this is evidence of gods approval as he "speeds it up in his own time".
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carla
Excellent post! I should just print this out and carry it with me when I get questions about jw, pretty much explains it all in a nutshell.
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Poll: Atheists overwhelmingly oppose the death penalty, but most Christians favor it
by Disillusioned JW insee https://friendlyatheist.patheos.com/2021/06/16/poll-atheists-overwhelmingly-oppose-the-death-penalty-most-christians-favor-it/ .
i am an atheist and i disapprove of the death penalty.
i remember michael dukakis, when he was a usa presidential candidate, saying i he was opposed to the death penalty - even for rapists and murderers.
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carla
What is the purpose of prison? to rehabilitate, to punish or both? I think some are able to be rehabilitated like white collar crime and so forth but some are just evil and cannot be rehabilitated nor do they want to be. If someone hurt, tortured & raped my grandchildren or kids I think I would be able to pull the lever so to speak. Or if our prisons and jails were truly horrific let them live. I know a defense attorney and they say in the US prisons the inmates can get any drugs, telephones and so on, they have their own society with their own 'perks'. Not saying it is the same as being free on the outside but some have clearly chosen to be there, according to my defense attorney friend. The attorney says that some just find it easier to be on the inside. I find it hard to believe too, they claim it to be true for some.
I also find it interesting that most people who oppose the death penalty also approve of abortion. I have not looked up studies on such, just an observation of folks I have spoken with. I find that quite odd and cannot quite wrap my head around that one.
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Do you still trust the FDA?
by DATA-DOG inthose of us who believe natural remedies have a major role in overall health, as well as lifestyle choices, receive a fair amount of criticism when we call out the who and the fda and faucci and any medical organization for pushing synthetic, patented substances on the populace when we have everything we already need just growing around us.
that doesn’t seem fair, especially when just a few days ago the fda pressured amazon to stop selling any products containing nac, even though the product has been sold for 57 years with no issues.
why would the fda take a sudden interest in, and legal action against nac?
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carla
Isn't it something that in some places in the US they are talking about legalizing many illegal/recreational drugs that cause deaths, heartache, social problems, etc.. for so many yet want to control drugs/herbs/amino acids that can actually help people with their health & wellness issues? Follow the money.
If you don't know home remedies you may want to start learning how to use kitchen cabinet herbs/spices and grow what you can or find in the wild. Stock up on what you can't make at home.
Here are a few drugs the fda approved only to be recalled later-
https://www.mdlinx.com/article/10-dangerous-drugs-recalled-by-the-fda/lfc-4008
Remember the thalidomide babies? doctors pushed that drug too, those of us who are reluctant and rare users of the modern western medical world are the 'nut jobs'.
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Watchtower Recruitment Tutorial (2020)
by projecthydra inthis recruitment tutorial was released in parts at the 2020 convention..
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carla
is it a jw dot org site? some of us will not there, can you give brief synopsis?
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I'm launching a new website
by JeffT ini just launched a new website to talk about my books.
the website has links to all three books in the alternate history trilogy i published over the last year.
of more interest to this group there is a description of the suspense/thriller i plan to release this summer.
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carla
Fantastic! They look like really good reads.
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What’s Your Opinion of Vice President Kamala Harris?
by minimus ini think she has the happiest laugh i’ve ever heard!.
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carla
I personally do not like her stand on abortion (to not give aid to a living attempted aborted baby should be repugnant to all in my opinion) (as well as selling baby parts, which is actually illegal and which she apparently finds no issue with) she is an &*(&^% so and so. ;
On abortion, Harris has voted against every pro-life piece of legislation she could, including bills with bipartisan support.
For example, earlier this year she voted against the Pain-Capable Unborn Child Act, which would have protected unborn babies from abortion procedures after the point at which they can feel pain (20 weeks).
Harris also voted against the Born-Alive Abortion Survivors Protection Act, which would have required doctors present during a failed abortion -- an abortion that results in the birth of a living infant -- to provide the same level of care that would be offered to any other baby at the same stage of development.
Harris voted against Pain-Capable in 2018 and Born Alive in 2019 as well. She also voted against the No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion and Abortion Insurance Full Disclosure Act that would have codified the Hyde Amendment and prohibited abortion coverage in Obamacare.