Posts by carla

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The Reason Behind Recent Watchtower Changes

by Vanderhoven7 in

eric wilson's video is worth a view.. https://youtu.be/iil4fryuczk?si=f566n0tdqgpqc2ok.

JW Chrisians in name only-what do you think

by enoughisenough in

jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.

i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.

he made a pretty good case.

"Carla, you don't understand what JWs believe about Jesus." - I guess neither do you and neither do any current jw's until they check their televangelists, err, I mean website to see what they believe today, at this moment in time considering jw's can change doctrine and beliefs at the drop of hat.

TxNVSue2023,

Why you may not be taken seriously may be due the fact that if you truly 'studied' the Bible with jw's you would not be on this board as all jw's know they are not supposed to be hanging out with apostates as many here are. Furthermore, everyone here knows jw's do not and have never studied the Bible, they study jw literature/videos/tv written/produced my men.

There is much unity between different denominations where I live. Many churches come together to feed the poor, clothes for those in need, fellowship meals and prayer, helping and combining efforts during natural catastrophes, helping families in the community who have suffered some sort of horrible catastrophe and the list could go on. Even friendly baseball games and other entertainment. Where are the jw's in all of the above? cruising obituary columns and graveyards in attempt to indoctrinate the vulnerable.

Serious sin? like what? a beard? oh wait that was only a sin a few months ago it no longer is.

Rock music? oh my tut, tut. I know my God wouldn't have a problem with any type of music that the person/persons is using to worship God. I even know someone who likes rap Christian music! I didn't even know it was a thing, not my cup of tea but they like it .

So you can forgive us for not taking you very seriously as you are woefully ignorant of all things jw.

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My parents did not really shun me when I left but I am now breaking their hearts…

by sinboi in

if they have shunned me and chase me out of the house when i leave the cult, i would not give a damn.

i can still feel their love and concern for me even now.. though i have moved out voluntarily when i joined the army, i am afraid that the life i am living now will break their hearts.

i am now a bartender in a bar and am cohabiting with a woman.

carla

You do NOT deserve to be shunned especially by 2 people who are supposed to show natural affection and unconditional love to their child.

You have not broken their hearts; you are living your life; as it should be. Children are supposed to fly and leave the nest and do their OWN life even if mom & dad might disagree. I am sure they must do things that you don't agree with.

Honoring your parents does not mean you must listen to them as if you are child the rest of your life.

You went through boot camp and don't have the balls to tell them about your life? how is that possible? do you love the girl? doesn't she deserve to be acknowledged by mom & dad for good or bad? what about if you ever have kids? My advice would be that you are package deal and they don't get to play with kids unless they honor your new family (be it you & girl or you, girl & kids) and abide by your rules regarding your family.

I say this as a former military mom with great affection to you and thank you for your service.

Parents will always worry. I am glad you can feel their love and concern but do not confuse that with the maturity that you should have by now.

(I forget if the Army calls it 'bootcamp' my apologies if it is something else, I'm a Marine mom)

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Did God know adam and eve would sin?

by gavindlt in

to all those on this forum, i would love to know what your take on this vital question is..

carla

If your God didn't know in advance that Adam & Eve supposedly 'sinned' then you have a very small god.

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JW Chrisians in name only-what do you think

by enoughisenough in

jw claim they are the true religion and they mention the love they have among themselves as proof.

i have been watching a youtube creator who had some thoughts on the subject, bringing out jw were not really christian, based upon their actions.

he made a pretty good case.

carla

As a non/never been jw - my opinion and that of every 'Christian' I know- jw's are not Christian because they don't accept Christ as their savior. period. They pretty much have no use for Christ and make fun of people who look to Jesus as their personal (and that of the world) savior and mediator. In dubland the gb is above Christ or at least equal. Not only that but according to my jw Jesus could have been anybody, He could have been Bob,Tom, Dick or Harry down the street. Jesus was nobody special. Not so in Christian circles. Though to be fair, this whole thought could have changed over the years and I or he completely missed it? So it goes in dubland keep up or fall behind with new light and all. Isn't there a scripture about teaching false teachings? the jw's don't seem to mind this when they get 'new light'. If a convention hasn't taken place in Hobokon New Jersey yet then the old still stand there. Never mind about the new light that came in a convention in Buffalo, NY.

In my weird life with a jw (who joined later in life) and me (Christian viewpoint non church-ed at the moment grew up traditional protestant) he had tried to pull the 'head of the house' crap on me because he believed it was 'Christian' and I would go along, hilarious ensues. Nope. You are not Christian and you can't try and use that on me because you are not a Christian. Take your ungodly crap and ..... well you get the idea. Yes, not very "Christian" of me I know, but, if I could forgive someone for the same 'sin' then I'm sure the Lord can too because there is no way that I could have more compassion than God.

For those who say that believing Jesus lived and was a holy man of some sort are 'Christian' do not understand Christianity at all. Muslims, East Indians (Hindu, etc...) also believe Jesus lived, that does make them 'Christian' because they do not believe that Christ died for their personal sins and that of the world.

Over the years my opinion has changed re: jw's due to the fact that first one must define 'sin' and also one must define what a 'God' or if you prefer 'god' is. That is where jw's and Christians differ entirely. Don't even go to the Trinity at the moment, first define sin and what a god is and is capable of. I can't count the many conversations between my and my jw regarding the above. On one hand he would shake his head in total agreement only to then say NO, blah, blah, blah......... it was infuriating! to have him shake his head in agreement to one second later say the entire premise was wrong except for some goofy word or two that he could agree with. aggh, it tires me out just remembering it. My kids tried too, all to no avail obviously or I probably wouldn't need to be here anymore. sigh.

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Are JWs forgetting Jesus altogether?

by KerryKing in

a relative sent me yesterday's wt study article 46, how jehovah guarantees his promise of paradise.. it's been a long time since i read one of those articles but what really struck me about this one is that, considering it's discussing a fundamental jw belief, it only mentions jesus twice as an aside, and not at all as the central figure like the bible does.

it actually mentions satan far more in the same article!.

i don't remember this discrepancy from my time in the org 15 years ago.

carla

I mentioned this to my jw years ago! in fact I could go on for hours about how the jw's have made Jesus basically a side note. I was too late, he was too far gone by then, sigh.

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Even with recent changes it’s a struggle to get people to attend

by hoser in

jw
friends

the kingdom hall is still empty.

even with amalgamation of 2 congregations.

the elders are handling the microphones and there was only one comment from zoom at the watchtower.

carla

I don't understand, you guys (ex jw's) here and elsewhere keep talking about how empty the kh's are so I decided to drive by the one my jw goes to a number of months ago and the place was packed! aagh! what gives?

Maybe each vehicle only had one person in it? I dunno, it was pretty depressing to see after all the good reports of empty kh's.

Hope springs eternal I guess.

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My decision.

by MissDaSilva in

jw
friends

i’ve decided to disassociate from the jw organisation.

i cannot be part of a community that blatantly rejects the sacrifice of jesus in that demonic memorial ritual.

amazing what information you find when you start researching.. i’m writing my letter and posting it to the kingdom hall this morning.

carla

Tednzo, so basically you all just use each other for your own purposes? with friends like that who needs enemies?

Those are not real friends and you are not a real friend to those people because you are just using them so you are not alone and have to find real friends that love you warts and all.

The org only has the power because people like you gave them that power. Years ago when shunning was first implemented people as a whole could have had nothing to do with it. Not give money or go to a kh and see how quick that policy would have changed. But because all jw's care more about the org/society and their own standing than they do God they allow any nonsense handed down by some evil men in NY.

The people on this board (and elsewhere) who have been subjected to shunning and all the other jw nonsense and left because they had the integrity to believe that truth is more important than following men because it is the easier thing to do are the real heroes today.

In most cases they lost everything simply for believing differently.

What would it take for you to say enough? What could the gb ask of you that you wouldn't do? What if shunning wasn't held over your head? Would you have the balls to say no then?

Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities (Attributed to Voltaire)

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Lines you would never hear from a Jehovah's Witness

by Ron.W. in

a slightly tongue in cheek, but also serious roundup of jw speak and why trying to reason with them is like trying to chip through concrete with a plastic spoon.. how many can you think of??.

elder: 'yes.

i read through the material you asked me to at your judicial meeting - you're right we're both in a cult!

carla

In real life or movie- "I love you forever!"

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Hello

by cantleave in

jw
friends

i popped in to read about the beard u-turn, so thought i'd say hello to anyone who remembers me.

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carla

Hey there! Hope all is well with you, always nice when people pop back in to let us know how they are doing.