I began in the mid '50s (left in the late 70's). I don't remember the prevalence of the word apostate in those years. However I seem to remember evil slave a bunch. Mom used that a lot.
Just my take.
Len
talking to blackman about the article and was thinking...didn't the whole apostate thing first start getting recognition in the 70's?.
i seem to remeber a thread saying that apostates were a contrivence enforced in the 70's to combat the 1975 fiasco.. could someone research the amount of times apostacy is used before the 70's compared to how much they used or warned against it after the 70's..
I began in the mid '50s (left in the late 70's). I don't remember the prevalence of the word apostate in those years. However I seem to remember evil slave a bunch. Mom used that a lot.
Just my take.
Len
i just realized we can change our avatar at gravatar.com duh!
i am happy now!.
Well I guess I'm out of luck till Simon fixes this site like he used to have it. Like another user, I don't remember the email address I used here. I just logged out, then logged back in to see if that is a required item but it's not.
I used the same username and password over at Gravatar that I use here, still no luck.
I right clicked on my current photo avatar to see the properties difference between mine and the original poster -- his has reference to Gravatar.com and mine, Jehovahs-Witness.net. I then left clicked on Fatfreek, near my photo, and now my photo avatar (my photo as 7 year-old) disappeared.
I should have stayed in bed.
Len
i just realized we can change our avatar at gravatar.com duh!
i am happy now!.
Hmmm .... that's great -- but also a puzzle.
I just watched the Gravatar video and it explained where you go into your site's (JWN) profile to do the specifics. Well, I tried that only a few days ago and could see nowhere that can be done (like the old days) any longer. Can you please give us a step by step procedure on how to handle this on JWN -- assuming we've already created one on Gravatar.com.
Len
i can hardly believe the prices they're getting for pristine copies of those books they handed out to those of us with scalps populated with lice, hands and fingers encrusted with bits of jelly and dried mud.
they're getting between $100 and $200 per copy.. thanks to google images, i couldn't resist taking another peek between some of those charming colored pages as a reminder to what we were actually exposed to in trying to make us literate.. most of these look contemporary to when i went to school -- the 1940's.
one of them may go back into the 1930's.
GreenHornet: Wow that brings back memories. Look up up I do remeber that. They were looking at Father behind the bush. Now that is recall memory at work.
Your memory is outstanding, that being the case. I thought Father's hat was on top of that bush.
Len
i can hardly believe the prices they're getting for pristine copies of those books they handed out to those of us with scalps populated with lice, hands and fingers encrusted with bits of jelly and dried mud.
they're getting between $100 and $200 per copy.. thanks to google images, i couldn't resist taking another peek between some of those charming colored pages as a reminder to what we were actually exposed to in trying to make us literate.. most of these look contemporary to when i went to school -- the 1940's.
one of them may go back into the 1930's.
I recall seeing those growing up, but I don't have any specific memories of using them to learn to read.
Oh, I remember the Dick and Jane books well. Each hard cover was differently colored -- yellow, blue, red, etc. -- depending on how advanced it was. Being in a single-room schoolhouse where grades 1 thru 3 were seated together, it became obvious which students were more advanced depending on the color of their book cover.
Len
i can hardly believe the prices they're getting for pristine copies of those books they handed out to those of us with scalps populated with lice, hands and fingers encrusted with bits of jelly and dried mud.
they're getting between $100 and $200 per copy.. thanks to google images, i couldn't resist taking another peek between some of those charming colored pages as a reminder to what we were actually exposed to in trying to make us literate.. most of these look contemporary to when i went to school -- the 1940's.
one of them may go back into the 1930's.
Whoa, Nelly! What a great link -- those Ladybird books -- to stuff we, in the states, were probably seldom exposed to..
i can hardly believe the prices they're getting for pristine copies of those books they handed out to those of us with scalps populated with lice, hands and fingers encrusted with bits of jelly and dried mud.
they're getting between $100 and $200 per copy.. thanks to google images, i couldn't resist taking another peek between some of those charming colored pages as a reminder to what we were actually exposed to in trying to make us literate.. most of these look contemporary to when i went to school -- the 1940's.
one of them may go back into the 1930's.
I loved the charm of that old telephone, the one that didn't even have a dial. I've watched old movies where they simply picked up the receiver and tap the cradle switch and tell the operator who they wanted to call. We always had a numbered circular dial and I recall we were on a party line where we shared with some 4 or 8 other customers. Pick up the handset and listen first to see if the line was free. If it wasn't, and mom wasn't watching, listen in to hear some neighborhood secrets.
Len
i can hardly believe the prices they're getting for pristine copies of those books they handed out to those of us with scalps populated with lice, hands and fingers encrusted with bits of jelly and dried mud.
they're getting between $100 and $200 per copy.. thanks to google images, i couldn't resist taking another peek between some of those charming colored pages as a reminder to what we were actually exposed to in trying to make us literate.. most of these look contemporary to when i went to school -- the 1940's.
one of them may go back into the 1930's.
I can hardly believe the prices they're getting for pristine copies of those books they handed out to those of us with scalps populated with lice, hands and fingers encrusted with bits of jelly and dried mud. They're getting between $100 and $200 per copy.
Thanks to Google Images, I couldn't resist taking another peek between some of those charming colored pages as a reminder to what we were actually exposed to in trying to make us literate.
Most of these look contemporary to when I went to school -- the 1940's. One of them may go back into the 1930's. Enjoy, Len Miller.
again..please do not ask for a pdf scan as the only copies i have are the interbranch electronic copies from the us branch to our local branch.. .
november 3, 2009 .
to all bodies of elders .
Blondie, you quoted from your elder's manual: If the sinful conduct is known only to believing family members and no congregation action is taken because of the factors outlined above, believing relatives will likely determine to curtail family association severely, viewing the relative as bad association. ( I Cor. 15:33)
Stop right there. Unless the elders tell these believing relatives ( divulging confidential information ), what would trigger them into "curtailing" such family association, etc.? Do these elders privately talk with the relatives, give a special needs talk to the entire congregation, or what?
Len
"youth" book and "young people ask" admitts that 97% boys and 92% of girls masturbate but of course none of the holy decent witness teenagers would ever do such a thing and earn jehovahs anger!
how realistic is this?
97% of the world have t.v's or a telephone!
Witness 007: "... but of course NONE of the holy decent Witness teenagers would EVER do such a thing"
Sorry, 007, but that statement, or even the equivalent of it is not found in WT pubs. I invite you to prove me wrong as current JW's and lurkers need to know that when someone from this board stretches the truth, someone else may step in with a bit of correction.
Here's what the Young People Ask publication actually says.
*** YP, chap. 25 pp. 203-204 Masturbation--How Serious Is It? ***
THESE thoughts have plagued many youths. The reason? Masturbation is widespread. Reportedly, some 97 percent of males and more than 90 percent of females have masturbated by the age of 21. Furthermore, this practice has been blamed for all manner of ills--from warts and red eyelids to epilepsy and mental illness.
Twentieth-century medical researchers no longer make such alarming claims. Indeed, doctors today believe that no physical illness is caused by masturbation. Researchers William Masters and Virginia Johnson add that "there is no established medical evidence that masturbation, regardless of frequency, leads to mental illness." Nevertheless, there are other ill effects! And many Christian youths are rightly concerned about the practice. ...
A Balanced View of Guilt
Many youths, though generally successful in overcoming this bad habit, occasionally give in to it. Fortunately, God is very merciful. "For you, O Jehovah, are good and ready to forgive," said the psalmist. (Psalm 86:5) When a Christian succumbs to masturbation, his heart is often self-condemning. Yet, the Bible states that "God is greater than our hearts and knows all things." (1 John 3:20) God sees more than our sins. The greatness of his knowledge enables him to hear with sympathy our earnest pleas for forgiveness. As one young woman wrote: "I have felt guilty to an extent, but knowing what a loving God Jehovah is and that he can read my heart and know all my efforts and intentions keeps me from feeling too depressed when I fail on occasion." If you fight the desire to masturbate, it is not likely that you will commit the serious sin of fornication.
The September 1, 1959, issue of The Watchtower stated: "We [may] find ourselves stumbling and falling many times over some bad habit that has bitten more deeply into our former pattern of life than we had realized. . . . Do not despair. Do not conclude you have committed the unforgivable sin. That is just how Satan would like you to reason. The fact that you feel grieved and vexed with yourself is proof in itself that you have not gone too far. Never weary of turning humbly and earnestly to God, seeking his forgiveness and cleansing and help. Go to him as a child goes to his father when in trouble, no matter how often on the same weakness, and Jehovah will graciously give you the help because of his undeserved kindness and, if you are sincere, he will give you the realization of a cleansed conscience."
Len