People will do things they otherwise wouldn't when money becomes tight. The Society knows that the the younger generations are relying on the phyical printed page less and less and if they want to remain relevant, they have to go with the flow.
Posts by donny
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by zeb ini made a tiny comment about the smaller and poorer quality of the wt magazines to my wife (in) she retorted "thats because they are using the internet.!".
it was not her words and her reply was almost rehearsed no doubt learned at the ms.. pretty good given the wts warnings against all things internet until relatively recently..
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How many people have you helped/facilitated to leave JWs?
by Julia Orwell inme: one, my husband, so far.
if we all snatch one person from the borg, will our numbers grow exponentially?
i'm no mathematician.. how many have you personally helped?.
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donny
Four as far as I know. My two daughters and a daughter and son-in law of a friend. I have also helped about 5 folks from ever becoming entagled with the Society at all. I did that by feeding them questions to ask the ones they were studying with. One of them told me that as soon as he told his study conductor that he was talking to an ex-Witness, the man never showed up again for another session. He said "The dude never called or left a note telling me that he was no longer going to conduct a stufy with me. He just stopped showing up on Friday evenings."
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Getting to heaven on the wings of Lunestra
by donny infinally i was having an anointed moment.
i looked up and saw jesus on his throne saying "my dear ray, i am coming soon.
yes soon i am coming and i will be coming quickly so be prepared.".
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donny
It is amazing how something that is supposed to just make you sleep can have such bizarre and sometimes adverse reactions. LSD should be envious!
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What do you think happens when we die?
by cognac ini'm trying to figure it out.
if we are just dead then there is no point to anything i do.
i'd like to hope our energy goes somewhere... but, i'd like to examine what somebody presents as proof....
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donny
As much as I would like to believe that some portion of my essence goes on after I pass beyond the veil, I have not come across anything that convinces me that we do anything other than just cease to exist.
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Getting to heaven on the wings of Lunestra
by donny infinally i was having an anointed moment.
i looked up and saw jesus on his throne saying "my dear ray, i am coming soon.
yes soon i am coming and i will be coming quickly so be prepared.".
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donny
Very true my friend!
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Getting to heaven on the wings of Lunestra
by donny infinally i was having an anointed moment.
i looked up and saw jesus on his throne saying "my dear ray, i am coming soon.
yes soon i am coming and i will be coming quickly so be prepared.".
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donny
Finally I was having an anointed moment. I looked up and saw Jesus on his throne saying "My dear Ray, I am coming soon. Yes soon I am coming and I will be coming quickly so be prepared."
It was so vivid and real. Then I felt the room shaking as if in response to what our dear Lord had just declared to me. The shaking got more and more intense until I heard another voice that was quiet at first but slowly getting louder.
I can hear my name but not much else. At least not yet. There it is again and it's becoming more audible! Wait! I can hear it now. This is so exciting!
Then the shaking becomes more intense and now I can clearly hear the proclaiming voice now. It's a female voice and she's says "Ray, Ray, wake up!! You are having an allergic reaction to the Lunestra! And why did you respond to me with 'Yes Lord?'"
After all this time thinking I was heaven bound and now I discovered I just have the earthly hope now.
Donny Ray
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The decline and fall of the Watchtower empire..........
by Terry incharisma can work wonders.. it can be both entertaining or maddening to large crowds of eager listeners.. whole populations can be swayed by a silver tongue or mad ranting poison-sac attached to a man leading a movement.. .
the history of the watchtower society proves this.. leadership is tricky and movements are volatile.
those who made you can undo you too.. .
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donny
I could not have said it better. Great observations Terry.
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The antidote to the myth that JWs are declining
by slimboyfat inone of the most persistent myths on this website is that jws are already in decline, the rot has set in, and the descent of the watchtower is inevitable from here on in.
unfortunately the facts do not bear this out.
jws are still increasing even in most developing countries, and they are still growing worldwide at a faster rate than the general population.
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donny
Great post Terry as usual. Your line "As Franz grew more senile and began having conversations with his own shoes" really gave me a good laugh for the day.
I agree with your accessment. While the JW's may still be increasing in numbers, the ones today do not have the zeal and confidence they had 20 years ago. They just go through the motions and hope that at least something the F&DS says actually comes to pass.
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Funny experiences while a JW
by donny indo any of you have any funny experiences while you were part of the jw machine?
back around 1986 i was the ministerial servant in charge of running the sound board in the kingdom hall for our congregation.
we were the last ones to meet in the hall on weekdays (friday) and the first ones to meet on sunday.
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donny
Another funny incident in my congregation occured when two sisters were demonstrating how to overcome objections at the door. The younger of the two walked in from the left side of the stage while carrying a microphone when the cord got caught in a chair and it jerked her arm back. She blurted out "Well Hell!" which was followed by a brief pause and then quickly added "is the common grave of all mankind."
This was followed by laughter as well as several people clapping for the quick recovery.
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At what point in the story did WT get it wrong, went off at a tangent?
by prologos inlooking at the bible narrative now, with open mind, the talking snake and all, it is a poorly contrived story.
all these clever people picking up and adding to the thread, the fabric its intriguing, certainly a valued literary work.
fiction.. using this story wt has woven another, parallel account that you would expect to harmonize with it, and hopefully attempt to connect with reality.. in your thinking, where did wt become unhinged, drifted off into total detachment?.
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donny
As some have alreadys stated, it was wrong from the get-go. When you start with a bad foundation, you will end up with a house that may look good on the exterior, but it is always on the verge of collapse. The Society, like many before and after it, tries to pass off a book of stories about the life and times of nomads from the Middle East into the complete history of the beginning of man.
Then the Society claims to be the only one out of 35,000+ sects that can interpret this history book with accuracy. That in of itself guarantees failure which is precisely what we have seen.