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  Well folks it looks like September 23, 2017 will be the new date of Armageddon, the Rapture or whatever.

  by donny in

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  well folks you had better get your act together because there is only about 2.5 years before you are held responsible for your way of life.

  according to "rapture watch", things are really going to start happening in 2017.. i am already asking the lord for leniency.

  http://www.rapturewatch.net/timelines.htm .

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  I think Fred Franz was cloned in the late 1800's and multiple copies were sent to several end-time groups.
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  Well folks it looks like September 23, 2017 will be the new date of Armageddon, the Rapture or whatever.

  by donny in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  well folks you had better get your act together because there is only about 2.5 years before you are held responsible for your way of life.

  according to "rapture watch", things are really going to start happening in 2017.. i am already asking the lord for leniency.

  http://www.rapturewatch.net/timelines.htm .

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  Well folks you had better get your act together because there is only about 2.5 years before you are held responsible for your way of life.  According to "Rapture Watch", things are really going to start happening in 2017.

  I am already asking the Lord for leniency.  

   

  http://www.rapturewatch.net/timelines.htm 
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  Life On Mars?

  by metatron in

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  http://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/nasa-finds-evidence-of-life-on-mars-9929510.html.

  perhaps life in mars would be more accurate.

  also, recent study of martian meteorites have yielded organic material.. .

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  It is there. Terry Walstrom wrote about it in his book "Monorails of Mars."
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  If I Were Still A JW I Would Think We Had To Be Living At The Time Of The End!

  by minimus in

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  with all the terrible things happening on this earth, i bet most witnesses feel that jehovah god has to step in..

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  The first and second century Christians were also eagerly awaiting the end and this eventually faded for most after the Roman Catholic Church became the big daddy of anything Christian. After the Protestants broke away in the 1500's the idea of a second coming began to be spoken about again, but it really took off after William Miller prdicted the return in 1843 or 1844.

  Since then scores of people have popped up thinking he had teh right idea but the wrong math and the madness continues into the 21st century. Millions of folks still believe ol Jovy will step in in their lifetime and furture explanantions from apologists will be brought forth to explaim while he still has not stepped in.
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  Did you AWAKEN from the JWs by yourself?

  by cultBgone in

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  i was thinking about how so many posters here on jwn are frustrated and frantic to help their loved ones get away from the brainwashing of jws, and how much advice is given about how to help family members and loved ones.

  i considered my own leaving and that it was internal turmoil based on the teachings getting weirder and child abuse issues, to name just a few, and it made me wonder:.

  did you self-awaken or were you assisted by the gentle proddings of a friend or family member?

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  Yes it was on my own accord. After my first wife and I separated I began visiting libraries and came across Ray Franz's "Crisis of Conscience". After reading it I knew it was all bullshit.
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  HELP ME COMPILE A LIST OF DISCARDED WORDS AND PHRASES from the WTS

  by Terry in

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  in fort worth, texas around 1959. gradually i became aware of the argot.

  special, private language).

  jw's had these phrases they used over and over again.. upon first hearing, these words and phrases stood out as odd, weird or awkward.. however.

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  And don't forget to check out Terry's latest book "Monorails of Mars."
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  Be honest post do all posters on this site believe the bible is 100% or has flaws?

  by booker-t in

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  we in the psychology/sociology field have a saying "when people protest too loud usually they are overcompensating".

  i did not understand that when i first started studying psychology but now i understand it completely and it is so true.

  when i hear someone constantly bashing something or someone such as gay bashing or ethnic bashing or religion bashing sometimes i wonder what are they hiding.

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  The Bible was written by humans and definitely has flaws. Because it has flaws and contradictions, you have to have apologists who have to jump through hoops to explain why flaws are not what they appear.
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  THE IMPONDERABLES TOPIC (Enter at your own risk)

  by Terry in

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  i suggest taking this slowly .

  .. consider the difference between taking a poll about an upcoming election and the actual vote itself on the day of the election.. the information gathered about what the vote will be is provisional.

  the vote on the day of the election is actual and official.. it is the one that counts.. now, carefully ask yourself what the specific difference--if any--there is between the poll information and the election result as an identical knowledge of.

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  Terry must be gaving some good coffee down there in Texas! Great post.
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  What a Waste...but i dont mind....

  by new hope and happiness in

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  i was listning to a song by ian dury " what a waste" such perfect and apt lyrics to explain my witness life.... anybody got any songs that explain there watchtower existence?.

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  Losing My Religion. REM
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  "It's the intent that counts and not the result."

  by donny in

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  "it's the intent that counts not the result.".

  i have been out of the jw organization for some 22 years now and i sometimes get a reminding jolt out the hoops that some will jump through to make their religion make sense to them.

  the first line in this post is what a jw on the street here in salinas told me on saturday when trying to justify the society's history of false prophecies.

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  jeremiah, I have learned over the years to avoid their conversation stoppers such as "Are you an apostate?" I once believed much of what they taught but I never bought into the idea that because someone had issues with the teachings, they were automatically "evil" and not worthy of consideration.

  I had the mindset that "If we have the truth, it should stand up to any scutiny" and eventually that mindset eventually proved that the JW Org had little to nothing to back it up as the one true faith. I am so glad that I left that organization and I hope that the exodus continies to increase.