yep--okay, let's sing it together shall we?
"....liiiiiight on the paaaaaaaath of riiiighteous ooones increases, Jehooooovah iiiit releases with such looooving...ughmMBBLEEEEEEEeeeeechhhhh" (sound of me vomitting)
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QFR Regarding How The "Slave" Is "Discreet"
by minimus ini was reading this nonsense at my mom's house yesterday and when i agreed with one of the definitions for "discreet" from the article, i said, "how could anyone think they were ever discreet when they got everything wrong from russell's day until now?
were they discreet when they said because the end is so close you shouldn't get married, have children and make families??
is that "discreet" or just the opposite???
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Why is the # for annointed still in the 8,000's?
by White Dove inshouldn't it be going down but fast?
god, how old are they, anyway?
do new ones keep popping up or something?
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fahrvegnugen
Another reason no one cares is that most new "partakers" are assumed to be over-zealous, emotionally unstable or just plain nutters--few believe that all of them really received the "calling." (we of course know that NONE of them did )
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If you think it's "possible" for extraterrestrials...
by FreedomFrog inwhy would you feel it's not probable for spirits or ghosts?.
my question came when i read this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/140402/1.ashx.
i was reading the thread from auldsoul and i couldn't help but wonder this question.
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fahrvegnugen
I haven't studied on this much so I'm probably getting things wrong but I thought that our existence (from ones that believe this way) happened by chance. If it was by "chance" then how likely is this chance to happen again.
The fossil record shows that life arose within the first 1.5 billion years of earth's existence (we know it was thriving by that time because we have large fossilized colonies of microbes from that period called stromatolites). That means that it arose rather quickly and soon branched out into various forms. So the thinking among many scientists is that since life arose so quickly on earth, then perhaps any place where the conditions are right, life will tend to arise as a matter of course. If this is correct then we would expect to find life throughout the universe. This is why researchers are so interested in Mars since they now know that it had liquid water for quite some time after the formation of the solar system. If they can find evidence that life existed there at one time, it will help validate this theory.
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Are you an a-xenist?
by AuldSoul in"xeno" is a common taxonomical designation for aliens (strangers) including extraterrestrials.. are you someone who lacks belief in intelligent extraterrestrial beings?
do you believe it is possible that such extraterrestrial beings exist?
do you think it is possible or likely that our planet has had interactions with extraterrestrials?.
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fahrvegnugen
There is only one Earth with exactly what Earth has or had at a particular time in a particular way. That makes Earth a UNIQUE (unlike others) incubator. The fact that there are billions of similar (not identical) planets is not enough.
The convergence of time and place and chemistry and happenstance unique to Earth triggered what was possible. Not probable. Possible. We have life swarming all over the EARTH.
If the Earth were closer or farther from our Sun there could be no life. Our placement is unique.
The difference between the POTENTIAL for life elsewhere has nothing to do with the ACTUAL probability of life happening.
There is no evidence that earth is unique at all. At the present time we don't have the technology to detect most earth-sized planets orbitting other stars--for all we know the universe might be (and probably is) full of them. Also, even if you accept the notion that the earth IS the optimum distance from the sun (open to debate), there is no reason why any other star system couldn't have a planet orbitting at a similar distance. The main factor is the presence of certain essentials such as water and we now know that Mars had substantial water for billions of years and the moon Titan currently is covered with an ocean underneath its icy crust. So just in our solar system alone we have two other locations which could theoretically have supported life and may do so now. When you mutiply this by all the stars in the universe you have countless posibilities for life.
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If you think it's "possible" for extraterrestrials...
by FreedomFrog inwhy would you feel it's not probable for spirits or ghosts?.
my question came when i read this thread http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/140402/1.ashx.
i was reading the thread from auldsoul and i couldn't help but wonder this question.
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fahrvegnugen
Extraterrestrials are possible because the same process which led to life on earth could have occured elsewhere in the univese, i.e., WE are the living evidence that ETs are possible. Spirits and ghosts aren't possible because they are merely the products of a fertile imagination and superstitious beliefs from bygone ages--they don't really exist, here or anywhere else.
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Historians of old -i.e. Josephus
by AgentSmith inrecently i have been reading some research that refers to josephus and some roman scribes that reported about jesus and his activities.
there are reportedly, thousands of writings (the bible excluded) that confirm that jesus in fact existed.
i was wondering, how many of these writers were there at the time, or was in direct contact with jesus.
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fahrvegnugen
Even if you accept the few references as genuine, they wouldn't prove anything other than that Jesus existed. None of the historians claimed to have even had contact with Jesus--let alone followed him around.
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Honestly, Were You An Ass Kisser?
by minimus into get ahead, did you get do more during the circuit overser's visit to make an impression?
did you cook him a meal or take him out dining??
did you auxillary pioneer when he came by?
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fahrvegnugen
I was during my early years. I honestly considered it a great privilege to be around such spiritual "giants." If I got to work with the CO or even one of the elders I looked up to, it made my day, week, month. After 6 years of pioneering and several more just puttering along trying to make the minimum every month, my zeal for such "privileges" had waned considerably. However, I will say that even toward the end I enjoyed working with some of the great elders in my congregation; unlike the COs who are mostly out of touch with reality, some of these elders who juggle careers, families and cong. responsibilities are great guys who still have my utmost respect on a personal level.
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Calling all ELDERS
by The Oracle inif you are an elder who frequents this site, please let me know.. i am trying to connect (completely anonymously - your privacy is assured) with as many elders as i can.
i know that there are hundreds of elders in the same position as myself (have had our awakening and have come to realize that "the truth" is a sham).. i encourage you to continue to serve as an elder and for you to work together with other like minded elders as a collective force for true good.
there is much we can do from the inside to help the cause.. there are thousands and indeed millions of kind and honest hearted people whose only crime is that they have allowed themselves to be deceived and are still active jws.
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fahrvegnugen
Very interesting--I have to believe that the tighter they squeeze, the more thinking people will begin to question the whole "arrangement."
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Calling all ELDERS
by The Oracle inif you are an elder who frequents this site, please let me know.. i am trying to connect (completely anonymously - your privacy is assured) with as many elders as i can.
i know that there are hundreds of elders in the same position as myself (have had our awakening and have come to realize that "the truth" is a sham).. i encourage you to continue to serve as an elder and for you to work together with other like minded elders as a collective force for true good.
there is much we can do from the inside to help the cause.. there are thousands and indeed millions of kind and honest hearted people whose only crime is that they have allowed themselves to be deceived and are still active jws.
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Blueblades--what Sept Km info are you referring to?
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Are you an a-xenist?
by AuldSoul in"xeno" is a common taxonomical designation for aliens (strangers) including extraterrestrials.. are you someone who lacks belief in intelligent extraterrestrial beings?
do you believe it is possible that such extraterrestrial beings exist?
do you think it is possible or likely that our planet has had interactions with extraterrestrials?.
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An astronomy professor was discussing this recently. The conclusion was that there probably is intelligent life elsewhere but the chances that they are technologically advanced enough to communicate across the vastness of space (let alone travel here) is pretty slim. The distance even to the nearest star is incredibly far and since nothing travels faster than the speed of light, it would take some gargantuan technological leaps to communicate with beings in another galaxy for instance. The nearest galaxy to the Milky Way is the Andromeda galaxy which is 2.5 million light-years away. So if you send a message from here to there at the speed of light today, it will take 2.5 million years to get there--at which point we may have been wiped out of existence or evolved into a higher form of life. Also you have to factor that while the universe is approx 15 billion years old, most earth-type planets hospitable to life formation would be found in 3rd generation star systems which means that you are dealing with a period of only about 5 billion years in which life-forms would have to evolve and develop sufficient technology to reach out across the universe. Anyway, it's all quite mind-boggling...