Posts by fahrvegnugen

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Ministry in God's paradise earth

by mistified in

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so i'm listening to a talk this week and the speaker was pretty delusional and shouted a lot!

the talk was the usual mumble jumble but then he said something that did not make any sense at all.

he said that after armageddon in the new paradise earth, the witnesses will still be warning people about the end of the new system of things.

fahrvegnugen

Although they have an outline to follow there are some elders who think they can make the talk more interesting by putting in their own bits. Obviously this guy did just that

Once had a visiting speaker severly criticize those who thought we would have computers in the new world. He just went on and on about what a terrible lack of faith that betrayed...for some reason that escaped his audience.

A CO questioned those who believed we would still fly airplanes. Said he didn't want any airplanes flying over his head, and would shoot them down with his howitzer. "If you get to have an airplane, I get to have a howitzer." Did I mention he was ex-military?

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Interesting comments from a certain JW forum...

by konceptual99 in

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these are snippets from a thread on change to circuit boundaries in the us please don't assume a single narrative here.. well, we just had a letter tonight saying that the branch has decided to dissolve 2 of the ohio circuits, one being ohio circuit #3 which i am in.

ohio circuit #3 will continue to exist until the new service year in september, at which point the congregations making up our circuit will be redistributed to other current circuits.

we'll be moving to ohio circuit #8.. interestingly, our sister congregation with whom we share the same hall was assigned to a completely different circuit, along with a lot of others we are used to seeing at our assemblies.

fahrvegnugen

I believe and my option only that Jehovah is telling us something. We just have too wait for clarification, we see that 2 Bethels are in the process of moving and further out New York is relocating further North, Great Britain is going further East....

Apparently Jehovah is moving them away from the populace so they don't get singed by the impending fire and brimstone he's about to rain down. He's mighty thoughty that way.

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Peace In The Middle East - It's a comin'

by scotoma in

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from the un news centre (with breaking news from the un news service).

un officials hope observance of international year will lead to israeli-palestinian peace16 january 2014 the united nations today launched the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, with senior officials urging that the observance be used to redouble efforts to achieve a durable peace between israel and palestine.. the coming year will be crucial to achieving the two-state solution, deputy secretary-general jan eliasson said in his remarks to the un general assemblys committee on the exercise of the inalienable rights of the palestinian people.. mr. eliasson said israeli and palestinian negotiators are working hard towards a peaceful, comprehensive settlement of all permanent status issues.

that means a settlement that ends the occupation that started in 1967 and which would end the conflict.. it also means securing an independent, viable and sovereign state of palestine living alongside a secure state of israel, where each side recognizes the others legitimate rights, he added.. the secretary-general and i urge all in the international community to work together to translate the solidarity and desire for peace expressed on this occasion into positive action for security and for justice.. last november, the general assembly adopted a resolution proclaiming 2014 as the international year of solidarity with the palestinian people, and requested the committee to organize activities around the observance.. general assembly president john ashe told todays meeting that he hoped the year leads to robust support for the people of palestine.

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...then construction shall be instantly upon them?

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Ok... so Mom did the robotic JW thing and people in my home country know about me...

by ILoveTTATT in

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so.... i went out all day today... just wanted to get away from the sh!tstorm that was created yesterday.

anyways... i come home like an hour ago, and my dad told me that mom called my aunties in central america and told them stuff about me, and also she told the elders of her hall... the elders want to meet with me, but i think that it will be at my house.

i am curious about your ideas about:.

fahrvegnugen

Just forget the idea that you are going to tell them TTATT. It is a waste of time and will go over like a lead balloon. My advice is to hold your tongue unless they ask you. When I left I tried to convince my brothers and a friend. All we did was argue. Eventually my brothers came around all on their own, but it took a few years. I won't even go there with my mom. A person has to open themselves up to the idea first. Until then just try and maintain the lines of communication. Also, I agree about not meeting with the elders. I would be polite, thank them for their interest, but decline to participate in any organizational BS.

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Titbit from April Awake

by konceptual99 in

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the latest awake is online.

there is a story about a nun who became a communist and then got disillusioned with that.

here's a quote.... .

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Remind you of any other group that drops people like a stone when they say they don't want to be involved anymore?

Back when I was an active JW I used to read a lot of memoirs from people who survived life under communism in Russia and Eastern Europe. After one particularly dreary special assembly day I went off on a rant to my mother about the unbelievable similarity between the JW meetings and communist party meetings. In both cases people were required to attend meetings and listen to ridiculous talks about what a glorious "paradise" they were so fortunate to be living in. In both cases people who had once been sincere, now simply went through the motions and eventually grew jaded and cynical. I swear in that central CA circuit there were so many unhappy people, everyone just seemed exhausted and that only caused the ludicrous DO to ratchet up the rah-rah schtick to new levels. Everyone hated that guy, but Jeezus did he have great hair--televangelist hair.

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Ackkkk JWs posting videos on Youtube now

by fahrvegnugen in

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well i haven't been here in a long old while, but was browsing around youtube and stumbled across a channel called jehovah's witnesses downloads which appears to be an official cache of propaganda uploaded by the borganization.

jeezus christ!

are their any worse actors than jws in those smarmy dramas?

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Well I haven't been here in a long old while, but was browsing around Youtube and stumbled across a channel called Jehovah's Witnesses Downloads which appears to be an official cache of propaganda uploaded by the borganization. Jeezus Christ! Are their any worse actors than JWs in those smarmy dramas? How about the phony plastic smiles and memorized "spontaneous" answers in the recorded "interviews"?

Actually JWs rarely cross my mind anymore, but seeing this crapola on Youtube reminded me of just how pernicious and awful the WTB&T Society actually is. Oh, is it any surprise that both comments and ratings have been disabled on all their videos? Par for the course with these folks. We can't have any criticism of God's one and only channel now can we?

Doing the usual Youtube two-step of clicking on related videos I ended up watching the full interview with Martin Merriman about the whole sordid purge following the disfellowshipping of Ray Franz and realized just how nasty the leadership really is. Hopefully every one of their video uploads will have a related link to that video or similar ones. The internet and free flow of information must really irk those "brothers".

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Please! I need a plausible excuse for getting out of going to the memorial!

by Inisc in

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i have been thinking about this for weeks!.

nothing short of death will be acceptable to my mother!.

i thought of saying i will go to another cong but my parents know people there so that won't work.. help!.

fahrvegnugen

If you are old enough to have a wife then you need to man up and just NOT go. You don't need to offer anyone an excuse. Tell your mom the same thing I told mine: "I appreciate your concern but I'm an adult and can take care of myself now." Say it calmly and lovingly, but with firm conviction. Problem solved.

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Soul Searching, need advice re: Physical Attraction

by Nice_Dream in

ok, so i was a young jw when i got married, and married a nice guy who was my first boyfriend.

i thought we had chemistry, but things weren't really working out in the sex department after we got married.

we had a pretty infrequent sex life for our whole realtionship...i'm talking months of dry spells.

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I heard an interesting story about an affair where the woman left her husband and children for another man, a family friend, whom she "fell in love with." Apparently the sex was great and the relationship burned hot and fast, but after the lust wore off they couldn't get along and they split. Funny thing is that the husband liked the guy and their friendship survived after it was all said and done. Now the woman is by herself. In hindsight she admitted that she was incredibly self-centered in all her rationalizations and regretted the whole thing. Keep that in mind before you decide to blow the whole thing up for "sexual attraction".

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Buddhist, Gay, and in Love with a Jehovah Witness

by fergal in

my name is augusto and i'm a 24 gay male, who practices buddhism since i was born.

where i work i was lucky enough to meet a wonderful guy who has been sort of my friend for quite some time.

when i say sort of, it is because since january we are not able to have any communication out of work.

fahrvegnugen

Be careful. I recently listened to a radio interview where a gay ex-mormon talked about his crush on another mormon whom he thought was gay and turned out to be wrong. I also have a good friend who is gay and despite the fact that I go out of my way to make it clear I am hetero he has a tendency to flirt at times that makes me uncomfortable. My point is just be sure you are not imputing sexual intent into purely platonic behavior.

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Has anyone read Thucydides - beside the author of Daniel?

by kepler in

belshazzar was the son of nabonidus the king.

darius i was a persian king who reigned after cyrus from 522 to 486 bc.

he succeeded the son of neriglissar, labashi-marduk who reigned for only nine months and was put to death in a conspiracy.. .

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In Greek texts "The Mede/Medes" is often used to refer to the Persians in general. For this reason many translators do not translate it literally, but even if they do you need to look at the context to decide whether the reference is truly singling out Median ethnicity or being used as a generic catch all for a member of the Persian empire. If you read Herodotus you will see that the Greeks were aware that the Medes were dominant early on and I surmise this as the reason "Mede" came to be a catchall generic term.