Posts by DannyBloem

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Could we be right, and they be right too?

by JH in

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is it possible that just about everything we say about the jw's on this forum is true, but on the other hand they would be the only true religion that god approves, even though they are imperfect and make errors?

DannyBloem

Interesting question.

I never found a better religion. So maybe...

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Who is directing them?

by barbar in

jws claim to be led by god.

he is directing their organisation by his spirit.. they believe that smoking is wrong, in fact a disfellowshipping offense.

so why did god not tell them that smoking was wrong?.

DannyBloem

Eddie the Eagle Edwards

ha ha ha, did he still not break his neck?

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The WTS destructive image of God.

by greendawn in

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after leaving the jws did you alter that severe, unsmiling, exacting, unforgiving ie destructive image of god that the wts was projecting very much in the spirit of the old testament?

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or perhaps did you altogether get rid of a god image?

DannyBloem

it didn't help that he looked like santa claus and that jesus looked like osama bin laden.

LMAO. Now you say it.....

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Unbiblical rules and sanctions in the WTS

by greendawn in

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do you know of jws that suffered sanctions due to wts rules that have absolutely no basis in the bible such as going to university or growing beards or refusing to wear suits in fs, reading religious books of other denominations or anything silly?

DannyBloem

That's cool man. The slow fade is kind of hard though, because it gives them opputunity to confront you all the time. I always preferred the suddenly falling off the face of the earth routine. How I loved the caller ID.

yeah I know. It is hard to stop myself from giving some comments sometimes. Well, I give sometimes some thought provoking comments now, but I know where to draw the border. I do not know how long I can keep it up. Anyway I do not hate teh dubs. I hate the false teachings of course. I was lucky in my cong. I could study, could more or less do what I like. (something you do just not tell, other thingsyou tell only to the right persons). to be short, my live in the org was not a hell. Also in my cong. there are a lot of good and loving people. UNless some posters here, I really felt the love from most people. Danny

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do JWs believe in dinosaurs?

by tsunami_rid3r in

the bible doesnt mention them at all.

so what the hell?

DannyBloem

Danny: Do you mean to say that everything that God created is only 6000 years old? The whoe universe only 6000 years old? About that. The earth is definitely not millions of years old as scientist claims.

Not so long ago, I was looking with a telescope at the andromeda galaxy. The closest galaxy, at only 2 miljion light years. This means that light took 2 miljoen years to reach us. This means the age of this galaxy is at least 2 miljoen years old. What you say about the flood and dating were the reasons why I realized the WTS were not the right religion. In first I believed all this, but then I examined those things closely. Like the ice drilling on the polar regions, which show the ice is much older (the ice has year rings like trees). Then also the tropical color islands, proved there was never been a flood. Thousands of meters of coral, and coral grows very slowly, and cannot bridge a long distance if suddenly a lot of water is added. Danny

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Unbiblical rules and sanctions in the WTS

by greendawn in

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do you know of jws that suffered sanctions due to wts rules that have absolutely no basis in the bible such as going to university or growing beards or refusing to wear suits in fs, reading religious books of other denominations or anything silly?

DannyBloem

Danny, I bet you would lose any congregational responsibilty if they found out you were associating with apostates on this board. The way the JW's preach against bad association, you would be the topic of a special needs part. I've seen and been hung by power hungry elders and CO's for less.

Oh yeah, for sure (especially if they would read some of my threads) A special needs part specially for me. That would be the first time well it will happen someday, but I am planning a slow fade. Danny

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Unbiblical rules and sanctions in the WTS

by greendawn in

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do you know of jws that suffered sanctions due to wts rules that have absolutely no basis in the bible such as going to university or growing beards or refusing to wear suits in fs, reading religious books of other denominations or anything silly?

DannyBloem

Do you know of JWs that suffered sanctions due to WTS rules that have absolutely no basis in the Bible such as going to university or growing beards or refusing to wear suits in fs, reading religious books of other denominations or anything silly?

Funy, exactly all those things you mentioned I do openly, and fif not get reproved, nor lost any priveliges. But non biblical things like smoing, birthdays will get you in trouble though Danny

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The Loving Provision Of Disfellowshipping.

by Englishman in

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watchtower, july 15, 1995:.

disfellowshippinga loving provision?.

"holy, holy, holy is jehovah god, the almighty.

DannyBloem

Danny I think the whole procedure and outcome are terribly ABNORMAL..

It starts out with a SECRET meeting where 3 MEN "no women allowed" uneducated in any form of law enforcement confront a single individual who can not bring another person into this investigation, which itself has no protective aspects for the accused.
Two witnesses required and ancient tribal laws are enforced.
The phoney "APPEAL ARRANGEMENT " will only accept REPENTANCE as a cause for over turning the original sentence.
The whole procedure is a laughable attempt at playing to be a government in their own rights.

Outoftheorg, I agree with you. What I said is that it is just understandable that a religion has some thing to disfellowship people not following some rules etc. How they do it, and the concequences, is another matter.
I mean like if you did something wrong: you are not allowed FS or even talks at the TS, I could understand.
The shunning, especially from family is horrible.

Danny

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The Loving Provision Of Disfellowshipping.

by Englishman in

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watchtower, july 15, 1995:.

disfellowshippinga loving provision?.

"holy, holy, holy is jehovah god, the almighty.

DannyBloem

I understand the disfellowshipping actually. It is logical.

Only what is NOT normal is the shunning.

Danny

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Would the WTS torture the "apostates" if they could?

by greendawn in

do you think the wts would physically torture and even execute "apostates" if we all lived in a context that allowed them to do so?

much as the catholic church did in the middle ages when they had the opportunity to treat their dissenters as they wished.

already the way the gb wants apopstates treated is as vicious as can be, manifests a deeply seated maliciousness and animosity and is calculated to hurt as much as possible under the present day circumstances.

DannyBloem

I am sorry that I do not agree with most of you here.

People in general are capable of doing so. THis is proven in history. One of the worst examples where normal people tortured others was of course WWII. But there are lots of examples.

But it depends the whole group the persons are in. And the time they are in etc. With the current teachings I do not think it would be possible. There is a lot of difefrence in active or passive bahaviour in this case. With there long teachings of pacifism etc, I would think they need a lot of changes before they would do something like that.

Consider that most JW's are just victims not villans. Also there have not lost all contact with the world and moral issues there.

Danny