the sign of the last days in timoty
also in revelation that "people will ruin the earth"
the sign of the last days in timoty
also in revelation that "people will ruin the earth"
i just found an interesting sumerian myth that i wanted to share.
the watchtower claims that the cross was not used by true christians and is of pagan origins.
(watchtower 1989 may 1 p.26 it reveres a pagan symbol masquerading as christian.
Don't some JW women wear little charms of watchtowers on chains around their necks?
yes I know some. Sometimes a gift at baptism
there were 12 monkeys in a cage and at the ceiling of the case some bananas were placed.
there was also some wood and things so that they could pile it up and reach the bananas.. some of the smarter ones figured that out, but when they climbed the pile of wood and reached for the bananas all the monkeys were soaked wet with a hose.
the monkeys who tried really don't like that and stopped.
This is not about power, abuse or jealousy.
the monkeys do not have much other way of making things clear to each other.
It is about the fact that a whole society or group can be perfectly organized, even knowbody knows why. Just follow the rules and none of them even knows why.
They just do things, because they have always been done that way. No questions, no thinking.
We have the same 'ability' as those monkeys that we sometimes forget to question some things that have always be done or tought in a certain way.
Silly monkeys we are.
1) What I hear most is that so many JW's do not take the religion to serious any more. It was so different in the past the dubs complain. "Before we were really living for the truth, now we just take the truth as some kind interuption to our normal lives.
2) Very few really think the new order is coming very soon. Wghen you ask about it it is always: some day or likewise.
i'm looking for beliefs of jw's that have the consequence of also requiring some other belief that they may not like or be able to explain.. for instance, you probably believe that there are an infinite number of numbers, since you can always add 1 to any number and make a new one.. what you may not think about as a consequence of that belief is that you can also start with 2, add 2, and create an infinite series of even numbers.
the set of even numbers is infinite, and the set of whole numbers (which would fully encompass the even numbers) is also infinite.
so which set is bigger?
Re: What MUST Jw's believe that they don't KNOW they believe
Almost Atheist you mean something like this:
1) jesus was the first thing God created
2) Jezus helped God to create the universe
3) Time is a property of the universe
cosclusion: Jezus is created outside time, and he could not have been really dead (not existent for 3 days). He did not had a beginning, so was not cerated
where is number 9?
whether it is god or the beginning of evolution, how did it come from nothing?
we are here, that is a fact, where did we come from?
belief systems are another thing, where is the proof of anything?.
that is something like : what came first, the chicken or the egg ?no answer is ever provided
Actually the answer is quite simple: the egg.
there were 12 monkeys in a cage and at the ceiling of the case some bananas were placed.
there was also some wood and things so that they could pile it up and reach the bananas.. some of the smarter ones figured that out, but when they climbed the pile of wood and reached for the bananas all the monkeys were soaked wet with a hose.
the monkeys who tried really don't like that and stopped.
in religion my friend... in religion!
TS
yes agreed. (very much so) But you see this behouviour also in politics and in some companies.
But just how the elders and CO's etc, handle things is IMO one of the best examples of this behaviour that can be found
i get the newspaper in the morning and although i know there is a lot of effort put into putting it together, i always read the headlines and if something sparks my interest, i read it.
which is how it is on boards like this too.
i read over the active topics and if something sparks an interest, i open it up and read it and respond if i have something to say.
about 50%
there were 12 monkeys in a cage and at the ceiling of the case some bananas were placed.
there was also some wood and things so that they could pile it up and reach the bananas.. some of the smarter ones figured that out, but when they climbed the pile of wood and reached for the bananas all the monkeys were soaked wet with a hose.
the monkeys who tried really don't like that and stopped.
There were 12 monkeys in a cage and at the ceiling of the case some bananas were placed. There was also some wood and things so that they could pile it up and reach the bananas.
Some of the smarter ones figured that out, but when they climbed the pile of wood and reached for the bananas all the monkeys were soaked wet with a hose. The monkeys who tried really don't like that and stopped. After a few tries they knew that trying to reach the bananas would mean an involuntary bath for all, and so nobody tries anymore.
How they put a new monkey in and as he wanted to try the obvious delicious bananas the other monkeys beat the hell out of him, so that he does not try again, because they do not want to get wet.
The bananas are removed and still no new monkey are allowed to climb the pile of wood. All monkeys are replaces one by one, but still the practise to beat the shit out of their fellow monkey when trying to climb the pile of wood continues, even there are no bananas anymore, and none of the monkeys that is in the cage has actually gotten wet, or knows why.
Isn't this behaviour not exactly what we see in most of the congregations?
DB