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  When Did You Realize That You REALLY Were Going To Die?

  by minimus in

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  and not live forever on paradise earth?

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  DannyBloem

  What a sad thread.

  Anyway, it did not realize it all of a sudden.
  It came to me very slowly. Maybe I am not as smart or my denial took longer. Over a time period of about two years all things why I believed were destroyed by closer examination and study. Not any argument remained to believe in a God, and without no God, no everlasting life. Dead is the end, that's it.

  This was only a few years ago. Did not mkae me happy this realization, but not mad at the JW's also.
  It did not really change my life. After a first sadness, there was also some relief. Some understanding of why I never fitte in the JW religion and was never happy at the first place.
  Still not really over it, still wondering how to waste my live.....

  Danny
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  Watch those Germans!!!!!

  by Gill in

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  i was having trouble sleeping the other night and switched the tv on to bbc 2. there was a programme on about the sw region of africa and a country called namibia.

  early in the 20th century namibia was under the control of the german colonialists.

  the germans were rather keen on getting more land for themselves as there were a couple of large tribes of black peoples living in namibia.

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  Some of them still giving each other the hitler greeting.
  
  
  do they raise their right arm and say "heil hitler" or do they simply say "heil"? because "heil" is very common and not really connected to the hitler greeting (anymore).

  No rasing the right arm. I do not exactly remember what they said.
  For me this typical raising of the arm stretched, is interprated in this way. Sometimes on a provoking manner. This together with the way they spoke about the colored people there, give me some reason to think not everything was okay there.....
  

  This was a minority of the white people there of course, not generalising.

  Danny
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  Watch those Germans!!!!!

  by Gill in

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  i was having trouble sleeping the other night and switched the tv on to bbc 2. there was a programme on about the sw region of africa and a country called namibia.

  early in the 20th century namibia was under the control of the german colonialists.

  the germans were rather keen on getting more land for themselves as there were a couple of large tribes of black peoples living in namibia.

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  DannyBloem

  Namibia, is a poor, dry country. When I was there (I had to work there a few months), I was as if time had stopped.
  A lot of very old fashioned german songs were played, that maybe were once popular in the 30's and 40's. Still a lot of germans there, mostly older. Some of them still giving each other the hitler greeting. Scary place in some ways.
  Still a lot of racial differences and especially the thinking of inequality. More is some parts of the country, then others. Totally different then germany itself, by the way. The modern germans are far from the ideals that many/some of them once shared. Danny
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  Is the problem with the JWs or the Bible?

  by sonnyboy in

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  this topic is a spin-off of another, but i'd like to hear people's opinions.. since the witnesses spew numerous biblical passages which seem to justify their beliefs and practices, who's exactly to blame for their less-than-human approach to life?

  what laws do the jws live by that are not justified in some way by the judeo-christian bible?

  is shunning justified in the scriptures?

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  Danny,

  So you believe that no one should take the Bible as exact truth? What do you think the motivation is of those who leave the JWs to become Catholic, Baptist, or some other denomination of Christianity?

  That is hard to say, people living the JW's to become another part of another denomination. People of other demoninations leave and become part of the JW's.
  There can be so many reasons and motivations for this.
  It can be very personal reasons that have nothing to do with the teachings (liking of some people there) to more fundamental reasons. Most reasons are probably a bit selfish, like wanted to live in this nice paradice that is so beautiful on the pictures (for joining the JW). A nimority of people really examing the things very well, in my opinion.
  But maybe, as many people as many motivations.

  I've found that most denominations DO accept the Bible as truth, but simply pick and choose which truth to live by. Why are the JW's truths more false than any other sect? They are reading the same Bible.

  I do not think that the JW's truth are more false then any other sect. The bible can be interprated in a lot of different ways, even when you try to take everything as literary as possible.
  The JW's have a issue with blood. A more fundamental protestant religion here, refuses any vaccinations (including for children) briging risk to themselves and others. Catalics forbid (at least in some ereas) birth control methods, causing lot of unwanted pregnancies etc. Which is more false?
  hard to measure 'falseness'. But beter stay away from them all..... Danny
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  Is the problem with the JWs or the Bible?

  by sonnyboy in

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  this topic is a spin-off of another, but i'd like to hear people's opinions.. since the witnesses spew numerous biblical passages which seem to justify their beliefs and practices, who's exactly to blame for their less-than-human approach to life?

  what laws do the jws live by that are not justified in some way by the judeo-christian bible?

  is shunning justified in the scriptures?

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  DannyBloem

  Both,

  The bible is a book written a long time ago, when principles and customs were totally diferent then they are now.
  In a time when slave trade was normal, human rights were unheard of etc.

  So, what do you expect, when you take such a book as the exact truth.....

  The Jw's are to blame because they are willing to follow the bible, without thinking how the world may hve changed, and how the priciples must be fitted into this modern world.

  Danny
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  Need help from someone who still goes to the KH

  by Unclepenn1 in

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  hello, i havent posted in a while, but have been a member here for a long time, and even back when h20 was going on as well.

  i am in the process of writing a book about the watchtower, but need some help from someone who is still in the org, and still goes to the kingdom hall.

  i need some materials for research, and was hoping that someone could help me.

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  DannyBloem

  maybe you can tell in which country you live.
  I'll still go, but sending it would be a bit difficult if you are too far away.

  Danny
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  The Atheist's Book of Bible Stories - new - The Long and the Short of It

  by RunningMan in

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  and there were giants in those days genesis 6:4

  there is a simple principle of physics that has changed the way i look at the universe.

  it has also prevented me from being taken in by a huge array of common legends and misconceptions.

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  DannyBloem

  (round figures make everything easier)

  Especially when you talk about Daryl Hannah, then round figures make things more nice to look at too
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  On a macro level, the Witnesses are pretty harmless

  by logansrun in

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  warning: this post may be damaging to your biases.. it seems to me that the "danger" the witnesses pose to larger society is, well, pretty damn small.

  just think about it: the witnesses are almost not involved in politics at all, except the occassional "freedom of religion and speech" issues they take to various courts, issues i am happy to support the witnesses in, even if i strongly disagree with their beliefs.

  you will not see jws supporting banning abortions or gay marriages or a whole host of other civil liberties and freedoms that evangelicals rally around like the village people searching for frankenstein's monster.

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  I can agree with that.
  on a macro level, the JW 'religion' is hardly even noticable.

  Using the "macro level" argument I can argue that the David Korash cult was much less harmful than the WTS.

  This is true.

  The marco level depends on how many people are influenced by a religion.

  But consider the whole world to be a world full of only JW's. (God help us, and sorry for causing some to throw up)
  The world would probably be saver, but say goodbye to the future, say goodbye to progress. Say goodbye to fun

  Danny
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  Anthropic Principal Debunks Naturalism

  by Shining One in

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  the anthropic principle .

  by dr. norman geisler .

  the anthropic principle (greek: anthropos, "human being") states that the universe was fitted from the very first moment of its existence for the emergence of life in general and human life in particular.

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  Shiny one,

  YOUR modern science has determined .....

  Will you please cut your electric wires, throw away your tellie, your car.
  O yes and if you use modern medicines will you please stop using them, and only use what you find in the woods.

  Unless you are Amish, then consider this note not written.
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  ADAM FELL UPWARDS!

  by badboy in

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  so says studies in the scriptures!.

  either vol 1 or 2

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  DannyBloem

  can you provide the quote?