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  Absolute truths have been admitted....

  by Shining One in

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  i had to wade through a lot of muck to find anyone with any reasonable arguments in my last post.

  most were just the usual personal attacks from the fringe and their flock of followers.

  instead of dealing with them, i have decided to post one response to those who made some valid points.

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  DannyBloem

  Interesting post Rex,

  I have to think a bit deeper into this matter, but as first I want to comment on your assuption that universal moral laws exist...

  I do not see why you can conclude that.
  1) we are not looking at something universal we are looking only at 1 spiecies, the human spicies. We do not know of the existance of other species so we are unable to assume anything on them, especially their moral standards.

  2) an example can be seen with animals, they do not have moral standars (or if you would cout the instincts, the moral standard are varying) why is that, if it is that universal?

  3) our personal moral standards are not developed individual. There are developed with input of other individuals, so they are cultural determined. Making it very logical that moral standards of individuals look like each other, giving the impression that a there is a universal moral standard while there is maybe no such thing.

  4) Is our mral standard also not developed by phisical realities. Like pain and our will to survive. These things have biological origins, and the projection of these origin to others is not more thenlogical, giving again the impression of a universal morality.

  5) when we look at history, we can find very little traces of universal morality. Morality has been cultural influenced and is changing over time.
  Even things like murder, have been defined very differntly. In some cultures it was quite normal to sacrifice persons (not enimies, but for example a princess). So if there is an universal morality, where is it?

  DB
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  Inquiry mind wants to know

  by jw in

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  what years were you an active jw?.

  when was the last year you attended a meeting?.

  were you a true christian or did you live a double life?.

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  DannyBloem

  What years were you an active Jw? until now

  When was the last year you attended a meeting? this morning

  Were you a true christian or did you live a double life? was not really leading a double life now (well sometimes maybe)

  What turn you away from the WTS? that they are wrong, and dangerous

  Do you consider yourself a christian , agnostic or an athiest now and why? atheistic bouddist
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  Nephilim - 1914 - And a Question.

  by MidwichCuckoo in

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  i was always led to believe that the flood occurred to rid the earth of, not only the wicked people, but also the nephilim (i wonder if noah ever preached to them......and what if just one of them became a dub...sorry, off on a tangent).. clearly god created angels with the ability to take on human form and procreate......fast forward to 1914. prior to 1914, satan and his angels had free passage between the heavens and earth.

  in 1914, christ took his (invisible)throne in heaven and cast out satan and his followers (hence the disruption on earth - wwi), and satan is now doing as much damage as possible on earth where he is resident.. it is reasonable to conclude (couldn't resist, under_believer) that god did not take away the ability for angels to do this (unless i missed it in the bible), so why then are we not seeing a new breed of nephilim?

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  DannyBloem

  And one of those is no more sex with humans.

  Jw, The question is why god gave it them in the first place and why God created them with the a big sexual desire?
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  Did you use to shun family members or friends?

  by M.J. in

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  have you since re-established contact with them?

  i wonder if the act of shunning someone you love actually strengthens your resolve that you're following the "right" course.

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  DannyBloem

  I did shun friends what were DF-ed before. I feel now very sorry I did.

  I never shunned family members because the society leaves room, not to shun them. I can;t understand anybody wanted to be even more strict then the WT rules...
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  Nephilim - 1914 - And a Question.

  by MidwichCuckoo in

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  i was always led to believe that the flood occurred to rid the earth of, not only the wicked people, but also the nephilim (i wonder if noah ever preached to them......and what if just one of them became a dub...sorry, off on a tangent).. clearly god created angels with the ability to take on human form and procreate......fast forward to 1914. prior to 1914, satan and his angels had free passage between the heavens and earth.

  in 1914, christ took his (invisible)throne in heaven and cast out satan and his followers (hence the disruption on earth - wwi), and satan is now doing as much damage as possible on earth where he is resident.. it is reasonable to conclude (couldn't resist, under_believer) that god did not take away the ability for angels to do this (unless i missed it in the bible), so why then are we not seeing a new breed of nephilim?

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  DannyBloem

  Well maybe they are among us :) Before I believed that the real reason was to get rid of the angelic DNA. But again why would a angel when taking on a human form, have first his DNA altered, to produce more large violent offstring? Why are the angels sexless and love sex so much? Even willing to take on a lower form for it.... But then it is quite obvious that the remains found by science and are named neanderthalers are infact nefilim.... D B
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  pedosexuals start new political party

  by DannyBloem in

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  here in holland a new political party will be created by members of a pedophily movement.. the name of the party is nvd (love of nabour, freedom and diversity).

  the goal is to legalize childporn, and sex between adults and children.

  here is part of the news (in dutch) ons land krijgt er een partij bij die voortkomt uit de pedofielenbeweging.

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  DannyBloem

  here in holland a new political party will be created by members of a pedophily movement.

  The name of the party is NVD (love of nabour, freedom and diversity). The goal is to legalize childporn, and sex between adults and children.

  Here is part of the news (in dutch)

  Ons land krijgt er een partij bij die voortkomt uit de pedofielenbeweging. De nieuwe politieke partij Naastenliefde, Vrijheid en Diversiteit (NVD) streeft naar legalisatie van kinderporno en naar seks tussen volwassenen en kinderen. De partij wordt woensdag officieel opgericht.

  I think this is really sick.....

  DB
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  Does the Rainbow Covenant Disprove the Flood?

  by Severus in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the story goes that god provided the rainbow as a symbol of his promise to never again destroy the world by flood.. noah and his family saw the rainbow after they left the ark.

  after the waters had receeded.

  after it had stopped raining for months.... yet a rainbow is simply sunlight spread out into its spectrum of colors and diverted to the eye of the observer by water droplets.

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  DannyBloem

  (2) A rainbow is not an animal.

  ha ha ha, LMAO

  thanks Narc, for clearing that up :)
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  News Item: Woman Hit By Lightning While Praying

  by Elsewhere in

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  one of my favorite quotes from the cartoon series the critic is "i think my therapist is right: god does hate me.

  http://www.wsbtv.com/news/9293414/detail.htmlwoman hit by lightning while praying.

  posted: 2:52 pm edt may 30, 2006. daphne, ala. -- worried about the safety of her family during a stormy memorial day trip to the beach, clara jean brown stood in her kitchen and prayed for their safe return as a strong thunderstorm rumbled through baldwin county, alabama.

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  DannyBloem

  The 65-year-old Brown said she is blessed to be alive

  So she is actually blessed by God, that he did not vaporize her....

  Isn't that something like thanking a criminal that while aiming the bullet at the heart he hit a leg.....
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  Are JWs Discouraged From Seeing The Da Vinci Code?

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
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  in another post on the da vince code, it starts by saying that the wts doesn't want the witnesses to see that movie.

  does anyone know if this is true?

  where has it been stated?

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  DannyBloem

  Well, I got the book from an elder, but had to wait because I was third on the list of people who wanted to read the book. The first was the PO the second another elder....

  about the movie I did not hear anything....
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  the lion will eat straw like the lamb...

  by DannyBloem in

  1. jw
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  or something like that.. i think not any one real sund in mind can believe this unquestionably.. anyway, what is ths current point of view of the jw's on this?.

  is is so, that they also believe that in the time of adam and before it was literal like this?.

  db

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  DannyBloem

  Dear Danny,

  Little Bo Peep did some research into this at one time and I was amazed that she found that the Society believes this already occured. But that it has "greater" fullfillment in our day! Being raised in the organization, I thought I knew all their teachings very well. However, this point, was new to me! When after Adam and Eve did the animals ever be at peace with one another again?? Aparently they teach that it was only symbolic and it was refering to the Jews return to their homeland after they were released from captivity. Here is the article that explains this. What is interesting, is since 607 is not a factual date for the destruction of Jerusalem, then you don't have 1914. So the Societys future fullfillment really has no foundation based on those dates. Could it be that this scripture was fullfilled already, and then, that was it?? Having no further application?? It is definately worth some consideration. Anyhow,I thought you may find this interesting. I know I sure did!!!

  Sincerely,

  Thank you Lady liberty for this peace of information.
  Strange turn they give to this provecy.